Response to Hairy reasoners video "From One Eukaryote to Another"

i reply to Hairy reasoners 2nd critique of my video "problem questions for atheists"

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• hairy reasoner
• evolution
• creation
• intelligent design
• science
• richard dawkins

[ProudToBLoud]

great video response pat.

[pestmanpat]

thanks proud

[pestmanpat]

VarialProductions said

In fact, your whole ***** is scientifically retarded because you don't even have a mechanism for ID. Its just "god did it!"... So tell ya what.. from now on.. I don't debate with creationists unless they have a mechanism!

[pestmanpat]

just a quick note.you are free to state whatever opinion you have but please refrain from bad language as it will be instantly deleted.i have deleted two comments of yours and edited and re posted one of them so your argument is heard.

[athlete117]

Well, I should say, that's not so much a mechanism, that's the agency. mechanism refers to a material process and the mind isn't a strictly material process. So we have a valid agency that we know can make these systems from repeated experiences. You have no experience of a car assembling itself so you're the one who's outside of science. I am firmly within science.

[athlete117]

The mechanism for ID is mind. We use ours to do really neat stuff all the time. Like build these incredibly complex information networks, which we're currently using to communicate with one another, called computers.

[athlete117]

The bacterial flagellum - I don't know the exact figure for this - but is somewhere in the region of 8-12000, now if you think that's going to be co-opted or assmebled by some blind mutative process, you're dreaming.

[athlete117]

There are many systems within the cell that are irreducibly complex. Some can evolve and others certainly cannot. It is possible, for instance, to get anti-freeze proteins by random mutation and so it is possible to get new instruction sets by random mutation and natural selection but the mathetmatical limits become more and more obvious when you go beyond a functionally intergrated system with say 750 amino acid residues that are all required for function. Evolution is dead beyond that point.

[athlete117]

Hahaha. I just love it. This is what must go in the heads of evolutionists such as yourself and Kenneth Miller. I tell you what, let's go to a car manufacturer and ask them if they're prepared to mix all the parts up, mix all the machines up on the assembly line, rewire the on and off switches for each of the machines so that you don't know which one is for which in order to produce the next ferrari.

[athlete117]

Here's how ridiculous your idea really is. If I removed the drive shaft from my car, removed the wheels and ripped off the doors, front and back, and said to you, not to worry, the lights are still on, you wouldn't say my car was still operational as a car now would you?