Unlimited Secession & Voluntaryism

If at first you don't secede, try, try again.

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[childoftreachery]

I like your take on voluntarism and national dissolution.

What I'm wondering about is warfare. You're correct in saying the states are the architects of warfare. I have to ask what would happen if, after everything collapses into voluntarism, a portion of the population rises up and forms a state, creates an army, and wages war on the rest of the individuals outside their sphere of influence?

Isn't this just another stage in the cycle of nationalism? Will voluntarism devolve into statism?

[InTheEndIWasRight]

@childoftreachery Well forming a state means non-voluntary organization. Also a group of people would have to have a vast ideological baking in order to have a state. You cant have a marginal state, that is one totally based on force, its just logistically impossible and extremely expensive. As for war, since there is no longer taxes to fund the state a group or person would have to raise funds himself, get people to believe in him, build any army and then wage war. Its all very impractical.

[whitewolf60]

larma...A relative of the rape victim could volunteer to put a bullet in your ass.

[ShawnLake84]

Great video, hope it helps some people.

5*****

[hurrrrrrrrrrr]

Commutarian anarchists? An ideal advocating the creation of a free society based on the individual's right to commute?

heheheheh

[MillionthUsername]

I think you meant voluntaryism (in your title), not volunteerism. : )

I don't know why you wouldn't support state secession. Any movement in that direction is a good thing. It would serve as an example. It would also give people better choices if you had 50 states actually competing on taxes and regulation, etc.

Any kind of decentralization is better than the direction we're heading in now.

[godshiva]

You say "you know" too much ;) It is possible to fix, I had the same problem.

[circlecityrabbit2004]

Yes indeed lol anyway it should be up later today.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

It's kind of funny to hear statists rail against secession. It's such an obvious example of when they don't even have their mythology straight.

Numerous present day "nations" were formed through secession, including the US, Canada and Norway, to name a few.

Can the US "nation" truly be said to owe the English "nation" restitution, equal to 250 years' worth of taxation, plus time preference and damages? Does all of Norway really belong to the Swedish state?

[nonantianarchist]

This is sort of off topic, but in Lincoln's first inaugural address he argued that the reason the Union just had to re-conquer the seceding states was that state secession would set the precedent for unlimited secession and anarchy. Now, of course, my response would be "so what?" but it works well on people with a statist mindset.

[whitewolf60]

No doubt that WMD's can now be "acquired" on the cheap; the development and production of them requires the actions of undesireably powerful entities. Curiously, under a world-wide anarchic condition, the threat of terrorism would be lessened as the production of weapons of aggression would be curtailed. In some situations, this would even remove the BASIS for terrorist acts.

[ZamatoElite]

Beats me, comr@de.