Romanian personalities, Emil Cioran (1911-1995) and Petre Ţuţea (1902-1991), talk about each other in this interview by Gabriel Liiceanu.
Cioran comments on Ţuţea's marxist past before converting...
Romanian personalities, Emil Cioran (1911-1995) and Petre Ţuţea (1902-1991), talk about each other in this interview by Gabriel Liiceanu.
Cioran comments on Ţuţea's marxist past before converting to Christianity, while imprisoned. Ţuţea, on the other hand, analyzes Cioran's struggle to meet God and believe in Him -- although never fulfilling his religious quest -- and refutes his qualification as an atheist. Ţuţea brings forward Cioran's fierce pessimism and his Schopenhauerian influences.
"I would not want to live in a world drained of all religious feeling. I am not thinking of faith but of that inner vibration which, independent of any belief in particular, projects you into, and sometimes above God..." (CIORAN, Drawn and Quartered)
"'I shall take the liberty of praying for you'. - 'Glad to heart it. But who will listen to you?'" (CIORAN, Drawn and Quartered)
"'When the soul is in a state of grace, its beauty is so high and so admirable that it far surpasses all that is beautiful in nature, and delights the eyes of God and the Angels' - Ignatius Loyola. I have sought to settle in an ordinary grace; I have tried to liquidate all interrogations and vanish in an ignorant light, in any light disdainful of the intellect. But how to attain to the sigh of felicity superior to problems, when no 'beauty' illuminates you, and when God and Angels are blind? [...] By what peculiarity of fate do certain beings, having reached the point where they might coincide with a faith, retreat to follow a path which leads only to themselves - and hence anywhere? It is out of fear that once installed in grace they might lose there their distinct virtues? Each man develops at the expense of his depths, each man is a mystic who denies himself: the earth is inhabited by various forms of grace manqué, by trampled mysteries. [...] One cannot will faith; like a disease, it insinuates itself in you or strikes you down; no one can command it; and it is absurd to long for it if you are not predestined to it. You are a believer or you are not, the way you are crazy or normal. I can neither believe nor want to believe; faith, a form of madness to which I am not at all subject The unbelievers position is quite as impenetrable as the believers. I devote myself to the pleasure of being disappointed: this is the very essence of the world; above Doubt, I rank only the delight which derives from it"
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da draga tutea ..dumnezeu exista (ala crestin) ma refer...pamantul e plat ...si banuiesc k nu erai prea sigur nici de de gravitatie :))..acum la bun ...puscaria la tampit ....inainte de asta a fost un om exceptional
Acesti doi oameni ilustreaza clar paradoxul romanesc: daca pleci iti pierzi sufletul, daca ramai te mananca viermii. Ceea ce se cere de la noi, e sa spargem blestemul spre a ne afla mantuirea. Si terminati cu parerile astea turbate si generatoare de conflict. Puneti umaru si mintea la chestii constructive.
In "Marturisiri si Anateme", Emil Cioran spune despre Petre Tutea: "Un geniu, daca a existat vreodata unul". Unde mai pui ca Cioran nu era nici pe departe singurul care avea parere asta.
@FransBengtsson măi tzărănoi naţionalist, tocmai tu care scrii atât de vulgar în limba maternă, foloseşti cuvântul cocalar? Tu nu îl înţelegi nici pe adi minune, cum l-ai putea înţelege pe Cioran, cel mai fin intelectual român, un om care nu avea cum să respecte decât în faţa reporterilor, ca să nu-l jignească, un cioban deştept ca Ţuţea ? Reciteşte-ţi mesajul ca să vezi că ai fost mai obraznic.
@KILLthemALLnow1 gasesc un singur motiv plauzibil pentru care scuipi pe aici cu dejectii: ai citit o carte desteapta pe care crezi ca ai inteles-o si esti nerabdator sa iti etalezi cunostiintele intrand in polemici. Ca un adevarat filosof..Adica duci lipsa de atentie. Sper ca ai fugit si tu din Romania ca un filosof ca tine nu are ce cauta intr-un neam de tarani. Sau cel putin o sa fugi imediat ce implinesti 18 ani si ai voie.:) Sanatate
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Regards
Si terminati cu parerile astea turbate si generatoare de conflict. Puneti umaru si mintea la chestii constructive.
Unde mai pui ca Cioran nu era nici pe departe singurul care avea parere asta.