HTML 5 Demo vs Flash

HTML 5 on Safari 4(left), HTML 5 on Webkit r54921(center), Safari 4 using Flash player(right)

Category:

Film & Animation

Tags:

• Html 5
• Flash
• safari
• webkit

[deniatus]

@fthis1234567

You've lost this war of words the minute you started using personal attacks in your argument. I get it...you're threatened because a superior alternative to Flash is available and is quickly getting rid of all you pseudo-coders. You've got two options; either become part of the dying breed of Flash programmers and sink OR go back to school and get an education (which you appear to really need) and start earning REAL money. Of course, you got to be good, too...

[fthis1234567]

@deniatus man ur a fuken moron. Originally you talk about how FLASH or something like it will get replaced by HTML 5, and I keep telling you its not gonna happen, then u go off talking about your salary and somehow using it to make ur argument more worth while. Your a fuken idiot.

[deniatus]

@fthis1234567

I *really* doubt I'll be making LESS rather than more. If anything, it pretty much solidifies my earning potential since I'll have been there "from the start" and learned the intricacies of HTML5.

Once again, the name calling is pathetic, especially since you call me an "idiot" and misspell the simplest of words like "missed" (in your case: mised). Is this one of the many reasons Flash developers:

1. make less money

2. create crappy applications

Is it?

[fthis1234567]

@deniatus you make 80k a year( 30k more on avg than a flash programmer ) b/c theres LESS html 5 developers than their are FLASH developers...So in other words, ur lucky ur working with html 5now and not couple of years from now, cause a couple of years from now html 5 guys, will make less...and html 5 is all the rage for mobile apps, BUT again it can't replace FLASH or something like FLASH, and you mised my first point again...idiot.

[deniatus]

@fthis1234567

Could you guys explain to me how you develop a mobile website with Flash? What about making sure that those who use visual guides (Jaws for example) to speak out the content on the website?  Lastly, what about SEO? Yeah, thought so. It's a dying language and needs to go that way. Thankfully, visionaries like Steve Jobs -- one of his greatest legacies will be toppling Flash -- will ensure a much better web future.

Name calling = lame.

[deniatus]

@fthis1234567

Well, look at it this way. If I wanted to become a Flash developer, I would have and I'd have ended up making about $50K a year. Instead, I get paid $80K a year (plus benefits, 3 weeks vacation, etc.) to work with modern, accessible code (*cough* HTML5 *cough*). Obviously, more is involved, but a majority of my day is spent writing HTML5. The kicker? I'm 21...

[nmbpeterv]

@fthis1234567 Flash indeed has some issues when it comes to garbage cleaning, however adobe is continuously improving flash player and you can easily get immense performance with a little bit of knowledge and tricks. And you're right when it comes to the fact that flash should be used for complex animations. Each has its role in todays web, HTML 5 is clearly taking its place, but flash will always be around.

[nmbpeterv]

@deniatus First of all, Flash isn't a "closed source" language at all, you can easily write your own modules for flash using a bit of C and codename Alchemy. Second of all your quote "flash needs to go away" makes no sense at all. You can easily make apps with a decent performance for mobile using the adobe air runtime. And third but not least, flash has superior performance to html5 especially since Flash Player 11 added direct rendering on the gpu.

[fthis1234567]

@deniatus pfft u sir are an idiot. First off, I don't like flash, the hell with it, as im not a flash developer...BUT a dedicated application LIKE Flash is a MUST for complex animations, such as the one in the video...Flash is badly programmed, maintained, everyone that codes knows that, BUT your an idiot for missing my point previously, I was pointing out that HTML 5 shouldn't be used for intensive tasks, sometime like flash is more suitable.

[deniatus]

@fthis1234567

I'm going to go ahead and guess you are a Flash developer? Either way, Flash developers are ignorant people who -- in trying to remain employed using such a shitty, closed source language -- completely forget (or don't realize) the lack of accessibility and usability for those with disabilities. I don't care if millions of Flash developers (I hope there aren't that many...) lose their jobs, I really don't, but Flash needs to GO AWAY!