David Icke talks to Freedom Central in Amsterdam, September 2009 9 of 14

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Such misunderstandings as you have put forward can be traced back to the cult-religions such as Hinduism and Christianity, and may be torn to shreds by truth and logic. A note, however, that can be of value, is that indeed human beings, through our REASON and loving perfectionism, can well eliminate the need for killing animals using GENETIC ENGINEERING, but this is owing to evolutive progress, and no delusional-religious salvation as David speaks of.

Please stop polluting this comments page with your twatty new age bullshit. 'Billy' Meier - Billy Liar, more like lol. There's a one armed bandit for you. David Icke is the dogs bollox mate and you don't know shit from clay and what the fuck's 'utility rating' supposed to mean anyway you spiller of verbal diarrheoa you? Go and pray to the east or something, foolish one.

The only 'enemy' of universal logic, which is identical with universal love, is anti-logic, which results from disharmonies only possible in a degenerate HUMAN (or humanoid) ego-consciousness. The crucified god represents the human material ego-consciousness, and it is this entity which is capable of becoming the enemy of its own spiritual destiny and the anti-logos 666. When you speak in fantastic or illogical terms, you are speaking without love and consideration, and unwisely at that.

Life exists as the result of love (valuation and allowance, utility rating) by the universal consciousness (the Creation). Boundness to time is one of the fundamental laws of material existence. Even in the pure spiritual realm there is universal time, because of the process of conscious cognition which results from allowing creations to unfold (based upon awe for all and everything, which is valued by the most universal value, namely universal LOVE) . This is not just a poetisation, but fact

Fascinating stuff.

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David Icke is a proclaimer of news, but the only qualified teacher of the spirit teaching whom I know of is Billy Meier. The true wise have surpassed the errors David makes.

Bondage to time is a fundamental law of material nature.  All progress requires steps, since it happens in time. Remember what David said about having both streetsmarts and awareness? Have both a left and a right brain-hemisphere. Love and Will, Wisdom and Intellect, are the fundaments of human being.

David Icke has asked the rhetorical question: "Why does infinite awareness need to evolve, learn lessons and progress when it is already all things?" In Infinite Spirit, there is no time and no steps to take. Time is an illusion and this so-called "law" immediately disappears the moment DNA programmed experience ends. The brain contains no consciousness because ALL is Spirit. Can there be more than ALL??

You have reduced your own argument to the absurd. Thankfully, however, your conclusions do not follow from your premises. Consciousness by nature always includes some kind of time (cognoscence/cognition), namely the process of informationally processing space. Consciousness implies space AND time. Neither does time exist without consciousness nor consciousness without time. You need to think more logically and not simply get caught in fantasies and delusions.