Gold List Method for learning to L/T memory part two

Here is the second part of the explanation of the gold list vocab learning method I have devised.


Unfortunately the link is dead. You don't need an excel version really anyway, as you'll be doing it by hand not in the computer if you take my advice, but as people regularly ask for this and I dug it up recently, you can get it off the Huliganov google group at http://groups.google.com/group/huliganov/web/goldlist.xls

I'll be producing a template that is printable and putting it on some other service in due course.


Please protect my authorship rights to this methodology by crediting it when copying on. Not-for-profit credited use is OK. I intend for any For-profit use to give rise to donations to highly-recognised humanitarian charities, in addition to the crediting of my authorship. It is not my intention to profit from the method, unlike the purveyors of the various short-term memory schemes, but to put it out for the good of people, especially people wishing to study and learn. It is all about optimising the long-term effect of the time spent in study, and giving the memory part of the brain a structured work-out in the way you would work out the muscles of the body.

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[fightingnate]

how do you not think you use muscle memory for typing on a keyboard? how do you think some people can type 100 wpm? why do you think there are typing lessons and programs? typing (if you type correctly and efficiently) requires just as much memory as writing.

[usenetposts]

@fightingnate The answer's more than 500 characters, so I'd ask you to find it on huliganov dot tv blog, entitled "True to type?" - give me about half an hour to write it - assuming nobody interrupts me.

[usenetposts]

@fightingnate Did you see my answer on Hulganov TV?

[Batyaboo]

Sometimes there are distractions (kids) but usually not.

Heck, how is it possible to remember the meaning of a completely new word after 2 weeks, having only seen it, said it and written it once?

I'm not giving up. I will try to see to it that there are less distractions. I really need to build up my vocabulary in Russian and I can't wait for that AHA! when I'm immersed in it in Moscow and actually recognize words!

[usenetposts]

@Batyaboo It generally does. Maybe you are trying too hard, somehow. Have a look at the film among those in the related films to the right of here called "Finally convinced the goldlist works" that guy was not playing along, he really was surprised how much his long-term memory had sampled.

It could be that you would be benefitted by writing the new words in both cyrillic and Latin until you get more fluent in the cyrillic.

[usenetposts]

@raphaelkick I'm sure it does. Don't kid yourself about music, if you listen to music properly the way it should be listened to, you cannot also study even subconsciously at the same time because that music is taking a share of either the conscience or the subconscious mind or both and you cannot control it. If you say that the music doesn't affect you, then I'm sorry but that is just an abuse of music by playing it without giving it any attention, and damaging your brain's musicality also.

[ColKorn1965]

Traveling to Russian, being surrounded by the language, and having a guide who spoke no English at all helped me more in one week than all my lessons, and internet tutorials put together. I can't wait to go back and spend more time.

[mynameismarvin]

mr. huliganov, i have a question. how will you know if you have already learnt the vocabulary? do you cover the english meaning and look at every word? or simply browse through the vocabulary, looking for a word you don't know? thank you for this methodology. this is my first time watching this video and i have been having problems in remembering vocabulary. i hope this will help me. :D

[usenetposts]

@fightingnate I'm not just suggesting people should just read, they also should write.

You could use the computer and do a gold list. You could set it all up very nicely in Excel or even make a dedicated program, but it would tie users to sitting at a keyboard and screen for more hours in their day, and when it comes to languages with many diacritics or to things like Chinese symbols, it will just slow you right down.

That article, which I'm glad you read, gives many reasons to do GL by hand.

[fightingnate]

@fightingnate You still have to think about WHAT you're writing or typing out in order to store it into your memory, which is why writing/typing stuff out is more effective than just reading something. It's the act of connecting muscle memory with information.

[fightingnate]

@fightingnate So the medium in which it's performed is automatic, therefore should not have any bearing on the uptake of that information. Hope that makes sense.

[fightingnate]

@fightingnate them both being stored in one's long term memory. So when you're writing out notes or vocab lists or whatever, you're not consciously thinking about how you put the pen to the paper or how you move your fingers to the correct keys; It is an automatic function. To me that means that the main thing you're trying to store into your short term (and then long term) memory is the task at hand.

[fightingnate]

@usenetposts yes, thanks for the long response. You make some good points, but I'm still unconvinced based on lack of scientific data/way to quantitatively measure and compare both methods and also based on my own experiences. I've studied both by typing and writing notes out and have not found one method particularly more effective than the other for retaining information. You're definitely right about writing being more personal, but my point is that both functions are very automatic due to