http://sioe.wordpress.com/ See how the Socialist Mayor of Brussels - who depends
on the Muslim vote - sent in his 'volkspolizei' to brutally suppress a
peaceful demonstration to commemorate the victims of 9/11 and to protest the
unrestricted Islamisation of Europe. http://www.brusselsjournal.com/
@AegisLow Well it's what he told me. He sounded really exasperated and frustrated. He'd married a Flemish woman he'd met outside Belgium and moved back to here village, but he was never accepted. I know that this kind of thing simply couldn't happen in say Mechelen or Leuven, but it still happens in places. There's something particularly dangerous about a national myth that is based on a sense of grievance. It leads to intolerance.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath wrote: His neighbours would never talk to him, no one would sit next to him on the train, and his colleagues at work treated him like a strange animal
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I seriously doubt that.
AegisLow 1 year ago
@keuteltjes "It took until the 60s that the majority received the same right as a majority of Francophones" That last majority should be minority, obviously...
keuteltjes 1 year ago
@keuteltjes Sorry. Just realised that I've been leaving comments under two different IDs, which is confusing. I'm the same person as ireneshusband.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@keuteltjes I admit you have a valid point there.
One thing that has coloured my perspective on the whole business was the experience of a friend of mine from India who lived somewhere in East Flanders. His neighbours would never talk to him, no one would sit next to him on the train, and his colleagues at work treated him like a strange animal, all this despite speaking excellent Dutch. When you hear something shocking like that it's hard to put it in its correct perspective.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
I'm all for tolerance of other cultures, but not at the expense of our own. It's a 2-way street. This country is rife with intolerance and disrespect towards everything Flemish, yet we are the Nazis for standing up to that. Welcometo Belgium. Drop the victim routine please, and start looking at this from both sides.
keuteltjes 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath "there are still parts of Belgium that have a long way to go in terms of becoming less fearful about their place in the world and more respectful of people who are different from themselves." Some, yes, same as everywhere else, including Wallonia & Brussels. It took until the 60s that the majority received the same right as a majority of Francophones. Francophones refusing to learn Flemish when moving to Flanders, Frenchifying entire neighbourhoods. Flemish fault, of course.
keuteltjes 1 year ago
@fartybraindeath I detest VB as well, but you act as if such attitudes are widespread. You also seem to blame the Flemish for everything, completely ignoring the vile attitudes of so many Francophones towards us and our so-called peasant language. You are aware of the history of this country and its treatment of the Flemish, no? Don't be surprised that some of us are becoming quite fed-up with always having to take the blame for everything. Go ahead, call me a nazi or telling the truth.
keuteltjes 1 year ago
@redlightlove Perhaps it would be better to say that the growing understanding of Belgium as a multicultural society is slowly starving Vlaams Belang, and obviously Moroccans, Turks etc are a big part of that, but there are still parts of Belgium that have a long way to go in terms of becoming less fearful about their place in the world and more respectful of people who are different from themselves.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago
@keuteltjes Not clueless at all. I've got quite a few friends who've been on the receiving end of the kind of stuff I'm talking about, and I've got plenty of Flemish friends who know that these kinds of attitudes exist and who deplore them and detest Vlaams Belang and all it represents.
fartybraindeath 1 year ago