Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson 1

The Lucifer series begins its talks on G.I. Gurdjieff's Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson.

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[ruzickaw]

useless talking, has nothing to do with Gurdjieff.

[JamesNealFox]

@ruzickaw Ah, at last an expert on Gurdjieff, so tell me (for the benefit of others, of course, not for me, lowly stupid unworthy dog that I must be in your highly evolved eyes), tell me, Your Majesty: breaking 'togoautoegocrat" down to its constituent syllables (very simple stuff, no numbers or code), tell me, what is the etymology & how does it pertain to the text?

[KhanDaPathan]

I don't what this video is about. The only thing that i know from previous Knowledge is that Beelzebub is a really powerful demon close to Satan. Also that he is called lord of the flies and i think that astaroth and azazel are his grand children,

[JamesNealFox]

@KhanDaPathan This video is about an aspect of BEELZEBUB'S TALES TO HIS GRANDSON by G.I. Gurdjieff.  If you have never heard of G then just look him up in Wikipedia. Then you'll have some notion of him.

[JamesNealFox]

As to the comment below from Ranjo517 it's always impossible to know where the person is coming from when they call a video "garbage" without daring to take a real position against it. Going to this guy's page I see he is a hater of Obama, believes the U.S. dollar is doomed, etc.

We all know the type.

That is exactly the type my videos seek to deflect. If anything, I need real feedback from this type as to how to deepen their turn-off to what I do.

[JamesNealFox]

I'm still waiting to see if silentpurr responds to my reply. In the meantime I'll say that for the basic gist of G's teachings the Lucifer series has a video called BEELZEBUB FOR DUMMIES, which goes over the basics. I'm still not sure what silentpurr is getting at in criiticizing this vid here except that possibly she is skeptical that there is any hidden meaning to Beelzebub.

If that's her thinking, I find it beyond belief.

[rrippp]

Good stuff Neal, I like it so far. A good antidote to the anally-retentive precious shit you see on Gurdjieff where being objective, and *sounding* objective have been totally conflated. You seem to 'get it', or at least be onto it in a big way - I'm on the last chapters of the book, and it has worked on me. I've had the openings you describe here through drugs and otherwise. Struggled with the true friendship part, but it's workin ok now. Nice to see the retro-minded prejudices being called too

[RANJO517]

when I see garbage on television, I just turn it off. What a great country we live in!!

[JamesNealFox]

@silentpurr My impression is plain talk is not quite your thing, but I will be plain in an effort to coax you to be plain in turn: I know what G was trying to show, so what, may I ask, has it to do with your caution about not getting hung up on the "finger pointing the way"? I'm assuming you are alluding to an old Asian adage, but I don't see what you're getting at in terms of how that adage applies to the video unless you've simply misunderstood the video.

[silentpurr]

Gurdjieff was trying to show us how to see ourselves as we truly are. Objectively.