Bertie and Elizabeth - King George V Dies

In this scene King George dies making his first son prince edward King George VI. But he would only be king for 11 months as he gave up the throne to marry Miss wallis simpson.

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[mindspring57]

And Edward VIII certainly did not marry "Miss" Wallis Simpson. Wallis Simpson was a twice married, twice divorced international tramp who had the weakling Edward VIII under her control and wrapped around her little finger. Edward was also a Nazi sympathizer (why not? -- he was almost wholly German). England was well rid of him.

[willharrydiana]

@mindspring57 hell yeah!

[bn279626]

When King George died his son DAVID became King Edward VIII. When King EDWARD abdicated his brother became King George VI.

[willharrydiana]

*hangs head in shame* your right and I call my self a royal watcher. :D

[RWSB1793]

@mindspring57 RWSB1793. 03/01/31/2012 A.D.HIS FATHER WAS A TOTAL COLD-HEARTED ASSHOLE,ALL THE MORE WHY EDWARD VIII BECAME MORE AND MORE HIS OWN MAN.

[SamhainTheDark]

Well, this won't do. The Christmas snow feature youtube has is all over Queen Mary's face.

[PIPZZZ02]

Question ;why doesn't anyone look like any of the actual people? For instance Queen Mary didn't look remotely like this. Hair, clothes ,everything wrong. Sloppy.

[trixwiz7]

@mindspring57 It's all on YouTube. Copy and paste this

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Then type it into the YouTube search bar

[mindspring57]

@trixwiz7 I am aware that Prince John was the youngest child, who died at age 13 or 14, and who had epilepsy and perhaps other mental disorders, but I had not heard of the "Lost Prince," so I will have to check it out. Thanks for letting me know.

[trixwiz7]

@mindspring57 E VIII wasn't dutiful, that alone makes G better, but apparently he was conscious of the poor. Lots of people also criticise George V for the way he raised his children. It's reasonably well directed criticism as you point out exemplified by Bertie and David. But to be fair I think he wasn't so different to any Victorian father, and so he can't take too much blame in that regard. Have you seen the Lost Prince (about Prince Johnnie), it's very good, I think, but terribly sad too.

[mindspring57]

@trixwiz7 According to George VI's biographer, Sarah Bradford, both Edward VIII and George VI were victims of the martinet upbringing imposed on them by their father, George V. Edward, the extrovert, rebelled by acting contrary to his father's wishes, while "Bertie" (as George VI was known growing up) withdrew into himself. Given the limitations to which a constitutional monarchy is subject, George VI had the better personality for the job. His wife was a great help in the PR department too.

[trixwiz7]

@mindspring57 Oh I concur, Britain was better off with George VI as King not Edward VIII. I don't think either was more intelligent than the other, but that doesn't matter. George VI was more dutiful and less strange than Edward VIII, better King material. Indeed you're right re appeasement. The evidence is Hitler wouldn't have tried to take Britain in any case, he wanted an anti Eastern European alliance with "racial equals". But morality/stand and fight won the day, thankfully

[mindspring57]

@trixwiz7 Don't forget, after Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich Agreement in 1938, King George VI and Queen Elizabeth stood with him on the balcony of Buckingham Palace, so that he could receive cheers of the assembled throng. Appeasement was popular in Britain. Many considered it silly to risk war with Germany over the Czechs. It was not until March 1939, when Hitler overran the rest of the country, that Chamberlain woke up. I still think England was better without Edward VIII though.

[trixwiz7]

@mindspring57 Yeah I think that sums up E VIII, he apparently also told a friend he didn't think Hitler was such bad chap. But this visiting Germany business was done more extensively than you'd think, Lloyd George went and met Hitler, so did Lord Halifax, both Britons, having visited Hitler doesn't amount to sympathising with Nazism (although E did). Accepting almost none of the Windsors were intellectually strong, G's a much better King than E, duty wise, but I think E got a raw deal still