Does Moving the God-as-Once-Sinner Problem Solve the Problem?
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This video is a response to Mormons, did God the Father gain his knowledge of good and evil by eating the forbidden fruit?
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@clearpathtofollw There is no official Mormon doctrine that says God never sinned, and Mormons tell me all the time that they believe God at least perhaps sinned. Furthermore, Mormonism teaches that sinners can become full-blown Gods someday, worshiped and prayed to by their own future spirit-children. So the question in Mormonism is whether we got lucky enough to have a never-sinned-God, or one of the billions of once-sinned-Gods in reality. Non-officiality exascerbates, not solves, the problem
aaronshaf2006 8 months ago
@aaronshaf2006 I'm leaving you alone now cuz we don't seem to be getting anywhere. Mormons simply make the claim that God may have lived a life similiar to ours at one point through out all of eternity. It does not mean that he was a sinner in the way that we are filthy sinners. I don't know why you're obsessed with this notion when you yourself said that the only thing that matters is faith in God and loving God. Later dude.
clearpathtofollw 8 months ago
@aaronshaf2006 Exactly Aaron, why does it matter? That's what I am asking you? You're the one who keeps digging into this ridiculous argument when it doesn't matter. I think you're an ex-bitter Mormon. Tell me I'm wrong. Our Church doesn't focus on what we don't know, but what we do know, which is the Gospel. The only person asking if God sinned is you, not Mormons. We don't discuss it in our Church. But when asked, I'm sure you'll get many varied answers. But, it doesn't matter in the end.
clearpathtofollw 8 months ago
@clearpathtofollw You keep accusing me of "focusing on spreading false information about Mormons." What specific claim have I made that is false? Also, if my claim that Mormonism fosters a belief that God perhaps sinned is true, should that matter since the greatest commandment, according to Jesus, is to love God with all our heart, mind, and soul?
aaronshaf2006 8 months ago
@aaronshaf2006 but my biggest issue here Aaron is that, instead of focusing on spreading false information about Mormons and tearing down other religions, there is still a lot of God's work that needs to be done. I just think that your time could be better spent ( as could mine) spreading and teaching the Gospel, rather than igniting debates that really do no good in this world. If you had God's love in your heart really, then you wouldn't be doing the things that you do. Ive said all ive got.
clearpathtofollw 8 months ago
@aaronshaf2006 ok. I'll read it, but only because I believe you deep down when you say you have no hatred towards Mormons. I still believe that you misrepresent our religion, and I wish I could convince you and other anti-mormons that our Church is so much more than what you believe it to be, that we believe in the Bible, and that we believe in the eternal cleansing atonement of Christ.
clearpathtofollw 8 months ago
@clearpathtofollw Have you read the text at GodNeverSinned[dot]com? Not trying to blow you off here, but please read it and then comment again. I deal with a lot of the issues that you mention, including atonement and officiality.
aaronshaf2006 8 months ago
@clearpathtofollw those anti-mormons actualy do not expect any answer based on the truth. Because there is no definition of truth in the bible. The word of God is the truth but what is truth? LDS has definition in D&C.
Non/Ex Mormons have their own definition to satisfy their own understanding.
oncom2008 8 months ago
@aaronshaf2006 .... (cont) but I hope that one day we will know what it means to be eternal and endless, and that it takes nothing away from God's glory and power to know that he reached his status by desiring to be that being himself. Remember, God did not creat Good and Evil, but he embodies all that is Good and Perfect.
clearpathtofollw 8 months ago
@aaronshaf2006 The issue for me is, you are dealing with very complex and deep theological doctrine that neither sect can answer, and you seem to forget or side step the fact that we believe in the atonement of Jesus Christ, which is more important that abstract hypothetical debates. We know that Christ lived a perfect, sinless life because the Bible tells us so. Enough said as far as I am concerned. I don't know what it means that God is eternal and endless......
clearpathtofollw 8 months ago