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http://www.ahlelbayt.com/category/articles/rebuttals If Alis wife was killed by Umar, and if he himself was persecuted by Abu Bakr and Uthman, then why in the world did Ali name three of his sons after the Three Caliphs? It is a historical fact that Ali named three of his own children as Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman.

This fact is recorded by the classical Shia scholar, Shaikh Mufid, in Kitab al-Irshad, pp. 268-269, where these three sons of Ali are listed as numbers 12, 6 and 10 respectively.




Therefore, this is not a matter of debate, since Al-Shia.com itself documents how three of Alis sons were named Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman.

No one, not even the most magnanimous of people, names his son after his enemies who were responsible for the death of his wife and unborn child. That is why one simply cannot find a Shia today named Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman.

This fact categorically rejects the Shia paradigm which is based upon the false idea that Ali disapproved of Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman. In fact, not only were they not enemies, but rather they were Sahabah (companions) and friends to each other, so much so that Ali honored them by naming his children after them. This shatters the very basis of Shiism which is centered around the supposed oppression of the Ahlel Bayt at the hands of the Sahabah. The first thing that should jump out at the reader is that Answering-Ansar could not deny that Ali named his sons Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman. Instead, Answering-Ansar had to explain away this phenomenon by claiming that Ali did indeed name three of his sons with these names, but that it had nothing to do with his love for the Three Caliphs.

Answering-Ansar claims that Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman were common names like Tom, Dick or Harry today. Therefore, reasons Answering-Ansar, it is not surprising that Ali named his sons with these names.

My response to this is simple: if three men named Tom, Dick or Harry came to my house and killed my wife and unborn child, then I dont think I would ever name my kids Tom, Dick or Harry. Whether or not that these are common names, the fact that these three individuals did what they did would be enough for me to stay away from these three names. Regardless of the fact that these are common names, there is no chance that a man today would name his children Tom, Dick or Harry after the murderers of his wife/child who had the same exact names. Likewise, the Shia accuse Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman of oppressing his family, killing his wife and unborn child; it is therefore highly unlikely that Ali would then name his children after them. Why would a person name one of his sons after the man who killed another one of his sons?

Furthermore, if Ali named one of his sons after one of the Three Caliphs, then perhaps we could claim coincidence. But rather, Ali named three of his children after the Three Caliphs. Think about it: if Tom, Dick or Harry came into my home and killed my wife/child, do you think I would then name my children after all three of these individuals? Fine, if one of my children was named Tom, then we could claim coincidence. But suddenly when it becomes Tom, Dick, and Harry, it just seems like too big a coincidence.

Ali had eighteen sons, and there are hundreds of names to choose from. Why in the world would he pick three names after the three people he hated and who oppressed his family? Answering-Ansar is asking us to accept a very big coincidence. The Shia faith is based around the oppression of the first Three Caliphs and yet here we see that Ali named his sons after them.

Answering-Ansar would have us believe that it is just one big coincidence that Ali named his sons after Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman. They say again and again that these are very common names and so it is not a big coincidence at all. We remind these Shia that Ali named two of his sons Umar and two of his sons Uthman. Surely, this is not random chance, but rather we see that Ali named his sons after prominent Islamic figures, as many Muslims do today. Maybe one Umar could be a chance, but Ali named two of his sons Umar, and another two he named Uthman, and another one he named Abu Bakr!

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  • ok wait a sec, did that shia piece of shit just say that our mother aisha (ra) was guilty of whatever he said?

    do these pricks even read the quran where it ALLAH warns muhammad pbuh not to suspect his wife?

    which is that verse by the way?

    can someone please post it ?

  • Imaam ash-Shaafi`ee

    On one occasion ash-Shaafi`ee said concerning the Shi`ites, "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidite Shi`ites." [Ibn Taymeeyah, Minhaaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah, 1/39]

    On another occasion he said, "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except the Raafidite Shi`ites, because they invent Hadeeths and adopt them as part of their religion." [Ibid, p. 38]

  • from which loser's books are u giving reference..... who da hell is he???

  • FROM SHIA LOSER BOOKS

  • you failed english. "takes an exam"

  • thanks

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  • shia more badlythan the jews

  • i didnt see anything wrong in watching the arrivals... all i see is the truth....

    my faith is now even more stronger after watching arrivals ... their is no god but allah and muhammed SAW peace be upon him is the final messenger..

  • hahah shia are crazy 

  • this is stupid as you have looked at corrupt wanna-be-famous shia nutjobs who have no idea what they are talking about. everyone know to be famous all you have to so is be a part of what you are critisizing. for example look at leo zagami. ex satanist bullshit whatever half the time he has no idea what he is talking about

  • @mrAsim7 brother obviously arrivals has mistakes as it is not divine book....but check out his other series in which he has stood upfor the charater of our beloved prophet(SAWW)........would you have watched a silent documentary with 50 parts???/

  • @uneebb

    yeah well done uneebb, anyone who criticise arrivals is wrong, they are of the freemasons are they, is this the same arrivals which place music while saying abstain from music, it is a mix of truth and lies!!! wake up! do the rememberence of Allah rather than listening to the music pretending its ok as it is part of the show!

  • 8 shias took this exam!

  • anyone who has read surah noor knows about the character of aisha(RA)....but criticising arrivals is also wrong...

  • i think this is gone to far....noreaga in his series give reference from bukhari.....if he is a shia there must be some logic.....come on stop this nonsense....we are all muslims

  • 2:59 looooooooool its kinda funny when they do that

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