Mars Hill Loves Women

This clip is taken from the sermon "Jesus' Birth Prophesied ," preached by Pastor Mark Driscoll at the Mars Hill Church Ballard campus in Seattle, Washington, on October 04, 2009. It is the 3rd sermon in our sermon series, "Luke's Gospel: Investigating the Man Who Is God."

To watch the full sermon, visit: http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/luke/jesus-birth-prophesied

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[NoaahsArk]

Well, I think sin can be easily defined. It means to miss the mark or the standard of God's perfection and holiness. That's what I have learned because I was taught several different things. I'm bold about my beliefs because I was raised Catholic, and then was Atheist for many years. It was the love of a Christian (Christ in Him) that showed me that God is real. That's only part of my testimony.

[Rekinava]

It's so good hearing people who have the Spirit of God burning within them. If i had unlimited broadband i could watch this all day.

[Roy5595]

@Thethreshingfloor814 By those in violation of it, I mean those who harrass and demean homosexuals. If you want to see more on this, youtube: Paul on Homosexuality. That cleared up a lot of confusion for me.

[Roy5595]

@Thethreshingfloor814 As for homosexuality, heres my opinion and it is certainly not going to be a popular one: back in Biblical times, homosexuality as it exists now did not exist. Most of the time it was understood in connotations of rape, male prostitution, humiliation, etc. You're right, it is silly for them to use those same Scriptures against homosexuals. I would argue they are in violation of Leviticus 19:18. People get depressed and kill themselves over the harrassment. That is not ok.

[Roy5595]

@Thethreshingfloor814 and about Jews. It takes extensive study to understand the NT and OT. Jewish tradition has centuries of writings on the Law and the OT for example. As for people who think differently than me... well, they're all heretics! LOL jk! The sects reflect poorly on us, I agree. But I would argue God is bigger than a book and one single interpretation. I have no problem with people having a different interpretation than me. All that I care about is that they love Jesus.

[Roy5595]

@Thethreshingfloor814 God, and love your neighbor, with little variation. That is the spirit of the Law I believe I am obligated to keep. So, no adultery, coveting, stealing, murder, etc (just as Jesus told the rich man in Luke I believe). So no, I do not believe in rejecting the OT. I believe Jesus came to teach both Jew and Gentile alike to keep the Law correctly, dividing it over Leviticus 19:18. The Bible is a complex book written many, many years ago. The OT was written by Jews, for Jews,

[Roy5595]

@Thethreshingfloor814 No I am not. I apologize, let me rephrase my previous statement: Jesus did say that. However, nowhere did Jesus advocate for Gentiles to become Jews and keep the Law as they did. He didn't even mention it to the Samaritan woman in John. Peter and James confirm this at the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. I believe Jesus, Paul, John, and Peter all divided the Law over Leviticus 19:18. You can see the pattern throughout Sciptures: they all advocate for two commandments: Love

[Thethreshingfloor814]

@Roy5595 Well, then...why do Christians use the same scriptures that condemn eating shellfish to justify the discrimination of homosexuals?

[Thethreshingfloor814]

@Roy5595 Okay, so you are a Marcionist then? A branch of Christianity that rejects the OT. But I would argue that Jesus said he did not come to change the law? So which is it? The conflicting sects of Christianity would seem to undermine the idea of an all powerful being with a single message...don't you think?

[Roy5595]

@Threshingfloor814 Also, Jesus' whole lesson on things going into the body not making someone unclean? That's totally against a traditional, binding view of everything in the law.

[Roy5595]

@Threshingfloor814 I dont think so. Jesus didn't stone the woman, "worked" on the Sabbath, summarized the Law into two commandments, etc. Most theologians in that day summarized the law as Jesus did. There were the "justices" (that being "do unto others what you would do unto you") so no adultery, stealing, murder, etc. The rest were "jobs" of the law. Also, early Christians decide at the council in Acts 15 not to make the law binding. So, maybe its binding to a Jewish Christian but not gentiles

[SuperDrSmart]

lol @ 2:22 "he CUMS to her".