Martial Arts Odyssey: Muay Chaiya Part 1

Cool, no problem. But the thread here veered around in circles. I spoke to many thai people who are involved so I understand. Its politics none the less. I dont personally want to be part of it was my point. As far as fights against known quantities in the open is what I am talking about. and I am glad you agree they havent happened. Thanks for your response.

does this style include weaponry like krabi krapong or is this mostly just a open hand art?

Also please maybe PM me the link or repost it. Because I not only saw it but I heard about it in thailand. I know what I saw and heard. I also remember a very lengthy thread from people responding to it. Its only recently lek and praeng had fighters because when i asked neither had anyone compete in any major event or against any major figher. Both men have taught i assume for close to two decades and it was another reason I shied away. Please get me the link or the forum link if you can thanks

Hi magus.

Yes there was a fight like your describing, about 3 years ago. It was had mainly to sort out a dispute students from the 2 schools where having online. It was a chilled event, with little animosity Kru Lek was there to mediate an make sure it didn't get out of hand.
To be honest, the 'politics' in Muay Chaiya have been made to be a bigger deal than it really is. Most of it is the younger students bickering, so I don't really think about it. Kru Praeng and Kru Lek have their reasons,

and issues which is their business.
Oh, Tae has fought in the ring on several ocassions... the reason why you don't see the fights is that Kru Lek and his students don't like to show footage of more serious fights, as they are being 'graeng jai' for the other fighters. Also, people come to challenge Tae quite regularly, and I've seen plenty of that footage!
There will be more footage coming out in the future, but we have to be careful, as not wanting to fuel the flames of 'politics'.

Its true that you might hit me with being hypercritical but I dont travel half way around the world to get involved in any politics or this or that. Life is too short. You want healthy environments to train in, something my dad also told me to look closely into. I came here to look, watch, listen to people's opinons and i respect each persons views just as i have my my own. I will take another look in the future -I havent ruled anything out as of yet and I keep an open mind as I always do. Ciao!

I dont think my opinon is weird. I have been involved in ma my whole life having trained with my dad and traveled all around the world. I talked to both teachers and saw the classes I went too with my thai friend. I listened to the teachers and i asked them questions. I felt also a strong disrespect toward muay thai which i respect. I asked both teachers if they ever fought, lived in a kai muay or trained muay thai and they did notwhich was an odd commentary and was definitely outputting to me.

the grappling praeng does as well is pretty bad in my opinion so i dont think any foreigners who can learn the real stuff would indulge in that personally or be bothered with it. So theres alot of distortion, internal conflicts and discord in the whole thing on both sides which was my original point, i wouldnt want to be involved and get tangled in anything like that so because we have so much of that in the ma world as you all now on here. I love to at least try the art but i will wait for now

I agree with you on southeast asian grappling, however. MMA fighters from the west or from japan, korea, or philippines would dominate most grapplers or mixed martial arts type fighters in most of southeast asia.

your opinion on chaiya is wierd. you should come out and try it. it is absolutely awesome. and no, there is no distortion in kru lek's camp. he follows exactly the way kru ket taught, which is well documented.

Yes, if you have the link please repost it. I have the dvd and there isnothing i think on there. It was a youtube post with the students fighting. If its the real thing there was also a thread somewhere on a forum about it which was quite lengthy but i cant remember where, if someone can repost the full link and the forum let us know.