@Isochest I agree. Marx himself lived his own life as a set of glaring contradictions. His revolutionary zeal certainly ensured he kept one eye closed to many things that didn't fit his neat little world view. It's something that seems to be shared by most people who want a simple answer, or let's say, the same answer to every question. But yes, we'll never know.
@ritchloui I think of Marx as having omitted this obvious vehicle of control on purpose. Whether he did as I imagine we shall probably never know but I see him as a slayer disguised as a saviour.
@Isochest Indebtedness is indeed a very effective way of 'enslaving' people. This obvious oversight always pissed me off about Marx. He never understood the role of debt. However, there really are some things that are unique to slavery and the word is too often used to glibly describe poverty and hardship. Educate yourself, here’s a little snippet of what we don’t often think of: watch?v=bKyGxBCR_HE
@ritchloui Interesting. Hmmm? Slavery can be achieved in many ways: Indebtedness is the preferred way nowadays, certainly in the "West". What can you tell me about that?
@Isochest Let me see. How much do you know about the Arab Muslim slave trade? You know, the slave trade that never stopped. You know, the one that's been going on now for 1,400 years. It's only that long because I'm only talking about Muslim Arab. If I were to talk about Arab, ie Arabian Arab, it would be... 2,500 years. Yes, that one. The one no-one likes to talk about, just in case they might seem racist or something or Islamophobic God forbid.
@Isochest Wrong. Where is all the Negro ancestry in the 'Arab' countries. They imported more Africans in the last 1,400 years than were ever shipped to the Americas. Yet, in the latter case, there is clear evidence of the African ancestry. This is not so in the 'Arab' countries. We have to ask ourselves why. I think you can guess the answer, the Negro slaves were not allowed to procreate once they had been transported to the Islamic states. A 100% genocide in fact.
@Isochest Ask yourself this; why are there only Arabs in the Middle East? They imported more Negro and European slaves than were ever shipped to the Americas. Someone's not telling the truth. Why is there no evidence of their children? What happened to them? Why are there NO Arab slaves? I also suspect that the word Zionist is used as code for non-Arab Jew. What do you think? Does that get a big LOL?
@Isochest I agree. Marx himself lived his own life as a set of glaring contradictions. His revolutionary zeal certainly ensured he kept one eye closed to many things that didn't fit his neat little world view. It's something that seems to be shared by most people who want a simple answer, or let's say, the same answer to every question. But yes, we'll never know.
ritchloui 7 months ago
@ritchloui I think of Marx as having omitted this obvious vehicle of control on purpose. Whether he did as I imagine we shall probably never know but I see him as a slayer disguised as a saviour.
Isochest 7 months ago
@Isochest Indebtedness is indeed a very effective way of 'enslaving' people. This obvious oversight always pissed me off about Marx. He never understood the role of debt. However, there really are some things that are unique to slavery and the word is too often used to glibly describe poverty and hardship. Educate yourself, here’s a little snippet of what we don’t often think of: watch?v=bKyGxBCR_HE
ritchloui 7 months ago
@ritchloui Interesting. Hmmm? Slavery can be achieved in many ways: Indebtedness is the preferred way nowadays, certainly in the "West". What can you tell me about that?
Isochest 7 months ago
@Isochest Let me see. How much do you know about the Arab Muslim slave trade? You know, the slave trade that never stopped. You know, the one that's been going on now for 1,400 years. It's only that long because I'm only talking about Muslim Arab. If I were to talk about Arab, ie Arabian Arab, it would be... 2,500 years. Yes, that one. The one no-one likes to talk about, just in case they might seem racist or something or Islamophobic God forbid.
ritchloui 7 months ago
@ritchloui So what are you getting at? Whos genocide is bigger or "less humane"? Now that's amusing.
Isochest 7 months ago
@Isochest Wrong. Where is all the Negro ancestry in the 'Arab' countries. They imported more Africans in the last 1,400 years than were ever shipped to the Americas. Yet, in the latter case, there is clear evidence of the African ancestry. This is not so in the 'Arab' countries. We have to ask ourselves why. I think you can guess the answer, the Negro slaves were not allowed to procreate once they had been transported to the Islamic states. A 100% genocide in fact.
ritchloui 7 months ago
@ritchloui Arabs are white people. And we see evidence of the imported slaves today in those countries? None. Are you a Guru I know? Probably!
Isochest 7 months ago
@Isochest Ask yourself this; why are there only Arabs in the Middle East? They imported more Negro and European slaves than were ever shipped to the Americas. Someone's not telling the truth. Why is there no evidence of their children? What happened to them? Why are there NO Arab slaves? I also suspect that the word Zionist is used as code for non-Arab Jew. What do you think? Does that get a big LOL?
ritchloui 7 months ago
@ritchloui Thank you for your kind words. If what you say is true, why bother replying? At least I'm not a Bung chaser like Mc Shane. LOL!
Isochest 7 months ago