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@711ATOM - The article has been published in Guest writer`s column of India race and can be accessed there also.
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@711ATOM - Many thanks for the highly useful info. reg. sub 3m 15s times.If I can get course record times for 1600m for outer & inner ovals, that will be great. Tentatively I rate Deep Impact @ 142. I have written an article on `Importance of track characterestics in evaluating timeform ratings` If you give me your email id, I can send it to you. Would be delighted to get your views on the same.
Best wishes.
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@SKSAGAR100 Pt1. - I am having difficulty finding the track records for Kyoto. However for 3200m I'm fairly certain that the second fastest time run on the outer oval is 3:14.1 (Meisho Samson, 2007). The next fastest time is 3:14.4 (Mayano Top Gun, 1997 - Meiner Kitz, 2009). No other times below 3:15. The Tenno Sho is the only 3200m race currently held at Kyoto and I doubt there was a Japanese horse capable of such a time before 1997.
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@711ATOM - Thanks.Ihave the profile. 1 in 90 rise for 360m followed by 1 in 40 fall for 160m.Complexities remain. I need record timings for 1400m and 1600m on outer oval and by how much they are faster than those of inner oval.My broad level conclusion:The time of 3m13.4s with 58kgs even with above gradients is unbelievably fast giving a very very high rating and difficult to believe its authenticity. What is the next best time for 3200m on the same track? More on hearing from you.
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@SKSAGAR100 (Pt2) - I believe Deep Impact at 4yrs. would have been carrying 58kg. I haven't yet been able to find the track record for 1200m. I hope that helps.
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@SKSAGAR100 (Pt1) - Perhaps you have already seen this information, but if you go to the JRA site click "Go Racing" on the nav. bar between "Breeding Sales" and "Contacts". "Racecourses (JRA)" will be the 3rd choice listed; click and there will be a map, go below the map and click "Kyoto Racecourse". Under "Course Overview", a picture of the course, you can choose "Course Details (overview, undulation, etc.)"
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@711ATOM - Thanks. I could not access the right source for the info. I need the following info: The level difference `x` between the 1306m (considered the start of 3200m) and wp, the weight `y` carried by DI, and the course record for 1200m. If `x` is 10m and `y` 56kgs( assummed values) then the TF rating is worked out as 142.If JRA wants to study my system and authenticate it if found in order, I`ll happily send it.
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@SKSAGAR100 From the JRA - "features a flat home straight of just over 400 meters. The course also is known for its hill laid out over the third and fourth turns, where the track rises from the 1,200-meter mark to the 800 mark, then dips right to the mouth of the stretch. The trip for the Tenno Sho lasts one-and-a-half laps around the oval." The outer oval is 1894m. Go to the JRA site, it has charts with course details (overview, undulation, etc.). How does it effects your figures?
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I have a system of calculating Time form ratings, but if I use that system to evaluate Deep Impact`s rating based on the Tenno Sho win, it works out several points (about 10 )higher than Secretariate`s rating (147). This is absolutely impossible, the only explanation I can think of is either the track at Kyoto is inclined downwards in the last 800 m (the part covered twice), or the timing of 3:13:40 may not be authentic.
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@bgardiner2000 I hope your right about things changing. It drives me crazy what the ratings outfits consider and what they choose to ignore. It's not only outside of Europe and the U.S. (though there is where it's worst). WTR and TF have Quality Road (WTR 128, TF 131) rated above Amer. HOTF Zenyatta (WTR 125, TF). TF has Quality Road rated above Blame, a horse that beat QR twice. QR (a good horse) finished 12th and last to Blame and Zenyatta in the Breeder's Cup Classic!
this was amazing, I absoloutly loved it! And the clips were really cool as well, almost as if they were from a movie or something, with all the unusual angles n such. And the music fit & mixed perfectly.. I actually got a little emotional at then end, and I have no idea why lol. Great job!
Pliokota 2 years ago 5
Absolutely Fantastic...
lengua92 1 year ago 3