Forgotten Miracle Trailer - 1960 U.S.A. Olympic Gold Medal Hockey Team Documentary
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Awesome.Great post.Thank you.
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RIP Roger Christian
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Vladimir Lutchenko is the defenseman you're talking about, I think.
You can't really say for certain whether having Lutchenko for the team and Tretiak in the second half would have definitively won the Soviets the game. The Americans tied the Soviets going into the second half because they took the Americans for granted and then the Americans outplayed and outlasted them. Plus, Craig was an absolute beast that day, stopping something like 90% of the Soviet shots on goal.
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Just hear the doc, they basically said the best team they ever had was the 1960 team. The US uniforms didn't change much from the 60's to the 80's. The other countries did change for sure. I'm not putting down the 1980 team, they were given the victory on a silver platter, sure they played hard, but what happens when the best goalie in the game at that time is hooked?
You get a crappier goalie who couldn't stop a simple shot which was the game winner and flaunt about it years later. Simply luck
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You seem to forget that one team talks more than the other, name one team in hockey history took a tour of a whole country to show off their gold medals? None. Never meant that either, but since they talk and I've seen them talk btw as if their "W" is the greatest ever when they were just simply lucky just doesn't make since when they don't even admit they were lucky to have had the game given to them on a silver platter. Herb Brooks claimed they would have been in trouble if Tretiak stayed in.
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@mapscannotcontainme You could also put in the fact that, a defenceman named Lutoshinko (sorry if I got his name wrong) was left off the team. Jim Craig runs a hockey school with him also, has told said many of times "if he was still on the team they would have won that game". Tikhonov got rid of a number of leaders off that team, starting with that great defenceman. Basically Tretiak was their leader, when he was pulled, it stunned the whole Soviet team. Had he stayed in, different outcome.
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Yeah, Tikhonov shouldnt have pulled Tretiak, but there were still plenty of other long time members of the Soviet national team, the greatest team in the world at the time, and it's not like Tretiak's replacement, Myshkin, was a slouch or even an average goaltender by any means. And the Soviets didn't give the Americans anything. Don't demean their accomplishment. The Americans were better conditioned and played their asses off that day, but the Soviets still played hard.
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If you claim they're bragging (which is essentially what flaunting is), then the onus is on you to prove it if you want people to believe it. Saying they flaunt their victory makes it sound like they tour the country showing off their gold medals. They don't do that. Sure, they're proud of their accomplishments and most of those guys will probably talk to people who want to know more about it, but there's a difference between all that and flaunting.
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@mapscannotcontainme Character and succes in the face of adversity with that team? Russia GAVE them the victory, sure it was an upset, not gonna deny it, but the Soviets LET it happen. Tretiak was known for giving up goals, but he would come back strong, but he was pulled, even Herb Brooks couldn't believe it when it happened
he said "had Tikhonov not pulled him, we would have been in serious trouble". Tikhonov even said "it was the biggest mistake of my coaching career".
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@mapscannotcontainme Try beating the greatest Russian coach of all time, a hall of famer in Anatoly Tarasov, who even changed the game itself with the conditioning that players have to do to keep fit, including his teams ahead of their times when they played games through their passing plays, etc... As a Cdn, I'll bow to them, but for the 1980 one what off-putting comments I made about them? It's fact that they flaunt their victory close 31 yrs ago, I'll say that about the 72 Cdn team, as well.
Two of the men on the 1960 team were brothers, Bill and Roger, with the last name, Christian. Bill's son Dave, was a member of the 1980 team. How about THAT? One family, THREE gold medals from two different USA teams.
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