MSNBC - Presbyterian Church (USA) To Ordain Gay Clergy

New policy approved by governing bodies in May. Richard Lui talks with Paul Mowry who is a candidate for ordination.

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[Justwosweet]

This is an inevitability for Christianity. If a religion wants to stay relevant it has to evolve with the times. Look at your average Christians view of slavery, completely different from what they could learn from their book. Just more proof Christianity is garbage.

[RevRossReddick]

As a new minister in the PCUSA, I am proud of this step toward justice. And a comment for DMoD129: Your comment makes it seem as if the *only* reason for the existence of Christianity is to 'hate gays." I don't know if ANY Christian would agree with that, even "fundies." Fundamentalism is not the only way to be a Christian. Clearly, the passage of these new ordination standards suggests that Christianity has its progressives; they're simply not the ones that the media uses for it's fodder.

[TheArcaneSanctum]

@isakechaos Again I stress; Study before you speak on such things history gives us a clear picture of all of this.

In the History of man 7% of all wars had anything to do with religion, you realize that means that 93% of wars in our history had nothing to do with religion right?

While I would agree that most religions cause mind control and promote intellectual slavery, I think there are far more pertinent issues in this realm.

[isakechaos]

@TheArcaneSanctum Religion is a lack of knowledge, so yet again religion is the problem in our world, blinding following a faith. and yes religion is the cause of most wars, even if its a scapegoat its religion that is the cause. Im tired of the "few people who use religion as a scapegoat to do evil things" if one person uses it in a bad way the whole ideal is deplorable to me

[TheArcaneSanctum]

@isakechaos

I do not think a religious free world is realistic perhaps a non dogmatic one.

Contrary to popular belief religion is not the cause of these horrible things.. ignorance is and uses religion as an scape goat to commit such acts.

Religion did not cause almost all wars, when you look at the history of wars on earth religious wars are the minority.

I would suggest investigating such things before making such claims.

The real problem is a lack of knowledge in our world.

[TheArcaneSanctum]

@DMoD129 Do you even know how to read hebrew or greek ?

[TheArcaneSanctum]

@DMoD129

Not at all in the original language it discusses them being ritualistically unclean and it suggest they shall be put to death again for temple prostitution.

Honestly I could not care less about what the bible says but it has been deliberately mistranslated by the droves of funnymentalist zombie king cultists.

[splicedenergy]

@gariadara You've never read the bible.

[Justwosweet]

@gariadara again the teachings of the bible not in the bible change to fit modern society. Religion has no backbone.

[gariadara]

@Justwosweet Again, it's not fiction when a significant amount of it is historical. It's incredibly racist and offensive to anyone who is Israeli or Jewish (by race). And exactly which "church" are you talking about? Presbyterians are only one of many churches.

[Justwosweet]

@gariadara There is no reason to mad at the bible, it just being an imperfect work of fiction. There is also no reason to choose to pretend that morality of any form comes from it. The church will continue to evolve and ignore it's oldest teachings and find ways to justify it's passed mistakes as an attempt to remain relevant. That's what it has always done and it isn't going to suddenly stop.