*PLEASE READ LEGALITIES DON'T SPREAD FEAR * TO BE LEGAL IN CALI IT MUST START AS A SINGLE SHOT WITH AN OVERALL LENGTH OF10.5 INCHS. YOU CAN LATER MODIFY IT AS YOU WISH . IF IT IS EVER SOLD IT MUST BE REGISTERED. IF IT IS SOLD IN CALIFORNIA -IT MUST BE SOLD AS A SINGLE SHOT AS IT IS ILLEGAL TO BUILD MANUFACTURE A HANDGUN FOR SALE IN CALI -WITHOUT HAVING IT TESTED BY STATE LABS FOR SAFETY ISSUES. the exemption being it is a single shot.
WARNING:
IF YOU ALREADY OWN AN AR RIFLE THAT IS NOT REGISTERED AS AN SBR, DO NOT ORDER A PISTOL KIT UNTIL YOU HAVE FINISHED (AN 80%ER) OR PURCHASED A COMPLETE LOWER THAT WAS 4473'D AS "PISTOL" OR "OTHER". IF YOU OWN A SHORT BARRELED UPPER AND A RIFLE WITHOUT OWNING THE PISTOL LOWER, YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH CONSTRUCTIVE POSSESSION OF AN UNREGISTERED SBR IF CAUGHT. THAT IS A FELONY OFFENSE AND I BELEIVE 10 YEARS IN PRISON.
Here is a great link for more info and items necessary to complete your 80%er. thanks for the link (vampyrehunterD)
http://www.colfaxtactical.com/ar15.htm
LEGALITY OF BUILDING YOUR own gun straight from GCA 1968- scroll down to page 177
http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf
"(A6) Does the GCA prohibit anyone
from making a handgun, shotgun
or rifle?
With certain exceptions a firearm
may be made by a nonlicensee provided
it is not for sale and the maker
is not prohibited from possessing
firearms. However, a person is prohibited
from assembling a nonsporting
semi-automatic rifle or nonsporting
shotgun from imported parts. In addition,
the making of an NFA firearm
requires a tax payment and approval
by ATF. An application to make a
machinegun will not be approved
unless documentation is submitted
showing that the firearm is being
made for a Federal or State agency.
[18 U.S.C. 922(o) and (r), 26 U.S.C.
5822, 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and
479.105]"
HERE IS A GOOD THREAD ON CALGUNS BY A KNOWLEDEABLE DUDE( I BELEIVE HE IS A LAWYER AND CALGUNS CONTRIBUTOR)
BUILDING 80%ERS IS LEGAL IN CALIFAS. JUST FOLLOW THE LAW AS PER SB23 SO IT IS NOT CLASSIFIED AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON.
http://mobile.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=86627
home built form 1 exemption is confirmed in the tech branch letter below
http://firearmsfreedomact.com/BATF%20Marbut%20Response%20Letter.pdf
the important text follows
"As a first matter, the manufacture of firearms, ammunition, and firearms accessories for your personal use does generally not require licensure under the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968, as amended (GCA). if the firearm, however, is of a type that is defined under 26 U.S.C Section 5845(i.e., a National Firearms Act firearm),you will need to file an ATF form 1, and have it approved by ATF prior to manufacture."
built this legally from an 80 percent lower. model 1 upper modified with a Midwest industries 9inch 4 rail free floater. http://winecountryweapons.webs.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1744936
BATF LETTER STATING MAGPUL AFG IS NOT CONSIDERED A VERTICAL GRIP
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid...
lower can be had from winecountry weapons , he also sells the jigs. only a good idea if you plan on building a few. otherwise you can buy them fully finished at a gun store for $1200. i like my stuff custom and i have 5 lowers that i completed for myself for future builds.
wine country weapons fixture kit for completeing the lower reciever . looks like a good deal at $135 shipped.
http://winecountryweapons.webs.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1775280
LOOK HERE TO SEE WHAT AN 80% LOWER LOOKS LIKE
https://www.tacticalmachining.com/80-products/80-receivers.html
LOOK HERE FOR MORE INFO ON 80% LOWERS
JIGS CAN BE FOUND HERE
http://www.cncguns.com/tooling.html
HERE IS THE TUTORIAL ON HOW TO DO THE LAST 20% .
http://www.cncguns.com/projects/ar15lower80tutorial-2.html
PISTOL KITS LIKE THIS ARE 100% LEGAL TO ORDER TO YOUR DOOR WITHOUT AN FFL . THE LOWER RECEIVER IS THE ONLY PART CONSIDERED A GUN ON AR TYPE GUNS. (READ THE WARNINGS I HAVE POSTED BEFORE ORDERING THOUGH , THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW TO KEEP FROM GETTING IN TROUBLE)
http://www.model1sales.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category...
WARNING: CHECK YOUR STATE AND LOCAL LAWS, ALTHOUGH FEDERALLY YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MARK OR REGISTER YOUR HOMEBUILT GUN ,NOT REQUIRED TO MARK IT AS PISTOL EITHER, YOUR STATE LAWS MAY REQUIRE THEM TO BE MARKED AS PISTOL .
So the magpul Afg u have on ur build is ok on a pistol still or illegal?
Beefloc1 1 day ago
@Beefloc1 - yes, it is legal because it is an angled fore grip. If i bought the longer 11.5" barrel I could put a vertical fore grip without any paper work or breaking any laws as the gun would be over 26" which categorizes it as "other" an not a pistol or aow. you have to have the longer pistol buffer tube like mine though. if you run the shorty types it would be under 26" overall length and be illegal without paperwork.
javelin005 1 day ago
So we can't put vertical magpul grip if barrel length is at 7" on pistol
Beefloc1 2 weeks ago
@Beefloc1 -only if your state allows you to register it as an AOW. that requires federal paperwork first and the tax to be paid. not sure if its $5 or $200. it is next to impossible in cali without having the gun in a Trust. too complicated for most so not even worth the bucks to do it. so don't mount it , it would be a violation of NFA laws and a felony. stupid but true.
javelin005 2 weeks ago
If you have a 11.5" barrel, then you can have a forward vertical grip.
breakurselff 3 weeks ago
@breakurselff -yup-imade this video before franklin armory put their atf tech letter. out.the gun must also have the long receiver extension to excede or meet 26" required length to be AOW exempt. not the little shorty buffer.
javelin005 2 weeks ago