@grinningchicken hey u judge on what happened in this past decade right?
seriously come on... nowadays majority literate people, and we have system for what is right and wrong (LAW & ORDER). but somehow everywhere as i seen people make stupid social disturbance, crime and mass hatred in the name of Islam is okay? u make the moral ground when you seen Somalis, Nigerian, Pakistanis... there are terribly something wrong, i rarely see any grateful Muslim people in Islam nation
Over the past 10 yrs isn't the body count something like 10,000 to 20,000 of your people killed by Muslims v 500,000 to 2,000,000 Muslims killed by your people to protect your way of life. even in the 10yr before that it was 1000-2000 of yours killed v 500,000-2,000,000 Muslims due to starvation and imposed wars.
Do you honestly feel you have the moral high ground on this one?
@riaoooo Islam was brought in Indonesia by the chinese general (Cheng Ho cmiiw..), the last years of Majapahit era ended because their prince got married by chinese moslem princess and decide to revolt against buddhism and proclaim the new kingdom Kediri, the survivor against tribulation and prosecution decided to migrate to Bali and Tengger mountain (that's why they are Hinduism)
@grinningchicken but you ain't living in Indonesia for this past 10 years rite ?
let's see way back.. Bali bombing, Mariott bombing, destruction of food sellers in Ramadhan, temple destruction, increasing of social disturbance (all in the name of islam ?) something somewhere there is wrong twisted mind of your people. Cultural diversity all right, but you just can't mention anything bad about Muhammad, and they just go nuts X.*
DEAR MUSLIM TO BE ..WELCOME TO ISLAM..YOU HAVE MADE A RIGHT DECISION AND YOU ARE NOT ALONE..A STUDY IN US REVEALS 99% OF ALL AMERICANS BETWEEN THE AGE OF 18-23 REJECT THE BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW,AMONG OTHERS 1.BIBLE IS COMPLETELY ACCURATE IN ALL OF THE PRINCIPALS IT TEACHES. 2.JESUS CHRIST LIVED A SINLESS LIFE ON EARTH.THE YOUNG PEOPLE CLEARLY REJECTING THE TRADITIONAL EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN TEACHING.SEARCH FOR "THE DECLINE OF CHRISTIANITY IN AMERICA".
@grinningchicken I AM from indonesia and yes islam came from traders not by force. while on the other hand the christianity came from the dutch oppression for about 350 years.
I have friends from Indonesia, studied Indonesia and been to Indonesia. I have never heard or read anything about a Muslim invasion of Indonesia. It seems everyone but you agree Islam was brought there through missionaries and trading. Until the last 10 yr Indonesia was the model of religious tolerance and cultural diversity.
@grinningchicken historical correction Indonesia are NOT converted they are FORCE into (Indonesia come from Majapahit kingdom which essentially Buddhism central in Asia, the kingdom ended after rebellion and mass massacre of old tradition), sadly in democracy era these so call "religion of peace" forced to put their faith to others with intimidation, bombing, and destruction of holy places (inc.Ahmaddiyah mosque! sad ;((
@grinningchicken hey u judge on what happened in this past decade right?
seriously come on... nowadays majority literate people, and we have system for what is right and wrong (LAW & ORDER). but somehow everywhere as i seen people make stupid social disturbance, crime and mass hatred in the name of Islam is okay? u make the moral ground when you seen Somalis, Nigerian, Pakistanis... there are terribly something wrong, i rarely see any grateful Muslim people in Islam nation
TheUltimatead 2 hours ago
@TheUltimatead
Over the past 10 yrs isn't the body count something like 10,000 to 20,000 of your people killed by Muslims v 500,000 to 2,000,000 Muslims killed by your people to protect your way of life. even in the 10yr before that it was 1000-2000 of yours killed v 500,000-2,000,000 Muslims due to starvation and imposed wars.
Do you honestly feel you have the moral high ground on this one?
grinningchicken 16 hours ago
@riaoooo Islam was brought in Indonesia by the chinese general (Cheng Ho cmiiw..), the last years of Majapahit era ended because their prince got married by chinese moslem princess and decide to revolt against buddhism and proclaim the new kingdom Kediri, the survivor against tribulation and prosecution decided to migrate to Bali and Tengger mountain (that's why they are Hinduism)
TheUltimatead 1 day ago
@julio14335 yep if you just can legalize polygamy and eating bacon as breakfast
TheUltimatead 1 day ago
@grinningchicken but you ain't living in Indonesia for this past 10 years rite ?
let's see way back.. Bali bombing, Mariott bombing, destruction of food sellers in Ramadhan, temple destruction, increasing of social disturbance (all in the name of islam ?) something somewhere there is wrong twisted mind of your people. Cultural diversity all right, but you just can't mention anything bad about Muhammad, and they just go nuts X.*
TheUltimatead 1 day ago
DEAR MUSLIM TO BE ..WELCOME TO ISLAM..YOU HAVE MADE A RIGHT DECISION AND YOU ARE NOT ALONE..A STUDY IN US REVEALS 99% OF ALL AMERICANS BETWEEN THE AGE OF 18-23 REJECT THE BIBLICAL WORLDVIEW,AMONG OTHERS 1.BIBLE IS COMPLETELY ACCURATE IN ALL OF THE PRINCIPALS IT TEACHES. 2.JESUS CHRIST LIVED A SINLESS LIFE ON EARTH.THE YOUNG PEOPLE CLEARLY REJECTING THE TRADITIONAL EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN TEACHING.SEARCH FOR "THE DECLINE OF CHRISTIANITY IN AMERICA".
TheAbahaziz 1 day ago
@grinningchicken I AM from indonesia and yes islam came from traders not by force. while on the other hand the christianity came from the dutch oppression for about 350 years.
riaoooo 1 day ago
@TheUltimatead
I have friends from Indonesia, studied Indonesia and been to Indonesia. I have never heard or read anything about a Muslim invasion of Indonesia. It seems everyone but you agree Islam was brought there through missionaries and trading. Until the last 10 yr Indonesia was the model of religious tolerance and cultural diversity.
grinningchicken 1 day ago
@riaoooo
I was thinking more like 30 to 40 years.
People are getting more awareness biases are wearing off. You are seeing more white and hispanic Muslims, children and grandchildren of converts.
grinningchicken 1 day ago
@grinningchicken historical correction Indonesia are NOT converted they are FORCE into (Indonesia come from Majapahit kingdom which essentially Buddhism central in Asia, the kingdom ended after rebellion and mass massacre of old tradition), sadly in democracy era these so call "religion of peace" forced to put their faith to others with intimidation, bombing, and destruction of holy places (inc.Ahmaddiyah mosque! sad ;((
why moslem can't respect other faith ?
TheUltimatead 2 days ago