Siegfried- Nothung! (Siegfried forges his sword)

Wagner Der Ring des Nibelungen Siegfried Bayreuther Festspiele Barenboim Kupfer Jerusalem Clark

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[layne867]

Man, the next part of this bit is the best! Could you upload it please?

[mazurmusic7]

Brilliant Performance! Thanks you for posting!

[MrGamestar007]

@layne867 Thats right

[agreatgeat]

@Chrysothemis Can you please elaborate what you mean by "Siegfried is the only Jew on this stage"? I've never heard that before.

[Chrysothemis]

You're entitled to your opinion about Jewish conductors, but as I have already pointed out Wagner himself didn't share it.

Meistersinger has always been condescendingly regarded as Wagner's "light" opera, and only considered problematic because it was a Nazi favorite. It is in fact as deep and clever as anything he ever wrote. It's about the relationship between rebellious artists and the establishment, and Katharina's production makes a lot of valid points on this issue.

[Napoleontas]

@Chrysothemis I personally find it insulting to wagners memory for his operas to be conducted by Jews, and it is obvious that many Jews would have conducted wagner giving their dominion in the grand stages like met.

And i also found the Meistersinger staging as a reality despicable , Katarina should have been spanked by her grandfather for what he did with her ancestors masterpiece, thankfully the wagner fans still have brain and she was "discouraged" by the audience.

[Chrysothemis]

@Napoleontas It's obviously a matter of taste. But Wagner himself picked a Jew to conduct the world premiere of Parsifal at Bayreuth. And since then, Wagnerian performance would have been severely crippled without Barenboim, Levine and Walter, just for a start. It's not necessarily important, it's more of a delightful coincidence that Wagner is best performed by Jews.

Again, I love Katharina's Meistersinger to bits..We'd had enough of the Nazi approach by 1944, and it's time to move on.

[Napoleontas]

@Chrysothemis I dont agree about your opinion conserning Jewish conductors, Wagner didnt need Jewish conductors really and less not we forget that the greatest conducts of Wagnerian music were done by the very non Jew Karajan. But in any case, i dont know i really think that staging Meistersinger as a modern reality show is quite horrible, dont you think ?

[Chrysothemis]

@songsterNJC Just to be exact, Siegfried is the only Jew on this stage. Barenboim is in the pit of course, but then Wagner would be nowhere without the legion of superlative Jewish Wagnerian conductors that has kept his music alive over the years. Which to my mind is absolutely delightful.

[Chrysothemis]

@Napoleontas My sincere apologies. Really. I forget sometimes that not everyone is 30+ like me. I've grown to love this 1991 staging, but it took me some time.

I'd give Katharina some time. Her Bayreuth Meistersinger and her Budapest Lohengrin are some of the most smart and incisive productions I've seen lately.

[Napoleontas]

@Chrysothemis I susspected ive learned that this performance was much older.

And since iam "clearly" not a wagner fan..?

Since it is obvious that you cannot understand that a person who half of his favorites are wagner videos, it is obvious a wagner fan, why do you bother commenting?

[Chrysothemis]

@Napoleontas Which means that you have no fucking clue whatsoever about Wagnerian performance in the past 25 years. Since you're clearly not a Wagner fan, why do you bother commenting?