Don't hold your breath waiting for secrets. Snead was a doer, not a teacher. 'Feel oily' . . . well that's fine if you are a one-in-100 million prodigy like Sam was. His instruction books were ghostwritten. He just went & did it.
@emncaity This seems awful advice to all but a rank beginner. Let physics release the club-once you start using active hands, its so hard to time. Ive used both methods and by far the easiest is to let physics release the club.
The hands are used in many sports. The correct action is based on the individual players timing .It not going to matter if you are a leg player, body player or hands player. Timing off . That why shots go haywire. If SAM said he snap his hands why won't i believe him . The term he uses is a question of semantic.Don't sweat it.
It depends on the player. Some people do it naturally as force is transmitted through the body and out to the clubhead, some don't. Some have to learn to use their hands to create speed. Certainly Snead himself thought so, as he says here and elsewhere.
The "snap" at the bottom of the swing,if generated by the hands,will lead to major inconsistencies.On the other if the "snap" is allowed to happen automatically,with no conscious input from the hands,golf becomes manageable.This is how Grout taught Nicklaus.This is done by utilizing the big muscles to transfer energy to the arms which then transfer the energy to the club (kinematic sequence).The hands merely hold on to the club VERY LIGHTLY.Soft hands allow the "snap" to happen automatically.
@emncaity one thing i forgot to mention is that snead "does" use his body and legs to generate power! he's so natural he thinks it's his hands, yes you can generate more power and extra clubhead speed through lag,but at a price,accuracy! the straightest hitters have fairly passive hands,kite for instance,compared to seve, you need to connect your body to the clubhead to transfer the momentum created by your body and legs at impact it's physics mass x velocity = momentum,you need both
I've seen the explanations for NG, and I just don't think the advantage of making one plane with the arms and club outweighs the tension and artificiality of it. For some, it works really well. But IMHO, the hands and arms are built in a way that makes the conventional hold the best balance of advantages and disadvantages. OTOH, I'd never tell anybody not to try something they think might be a breakthrough for them, especially when it's been proven by at least some good players.
As for Moe Norman, well...it's hard to argue with success so great that top-level tour pros would say this guy was the most consistent striker they ever saw, at least as good as Hogan, according to some. However, theoretically, I'm not so convinced that the wrists are that much of a nightmare, except to the extent that you can make the movement of any body "part" (because "part" is just an idea we use for convenience anyway) a nightmare if you overthink it enough.
@robertschelly you really think he had no idea how to hit a golf ball, huh?
dschultz6072 2 days ago
Don't hold your breath waiting for secrets. Snead was a doer, not a teacher. 'Feel oily' . . . well that's fine if you are a one-in-100 million prodigy like Sam was. His instruction books were ghostwritten. He just went & did it.
robertschelly 1 month ago
@emncaity This seems awful advice to all but a rank beginner. Let physics release the club-once you start using active hands, its so hard to time. Ive used both methods and by far the easiest is to let physics release the club.
cockywatchman1976 2 months ago
The hands are used in many sports. The correct action is based on the individual players timing .It not going to matter if you are a leg player, body player or hands player. Timing off . That why shots go haywire. If SAM said he snap his hands why won't i believe him . The term he uses is a question of semantic.Don't sweat it.
sifurick123 4 months ago
@TheNYgolfer
It depends on the player. Some people do it naturally as force is transmitted through the body and out to the clubhead, some don't. Some have to learn to use their hands to create speed. Certainly Snead himself thought so, as he says here and elsewhere.
emncaity 5 months ago in playlist Sam Snead Swing
The "snap" at the bottom of the swing,if generated by the hands,will lead to major inconsistencies.On the other if the "snap" is allowed to happen automatically,with no conscious input from the hands,golf becomes manageable.This is how Grout taught Nicklaus.This is done by utilizing the big muscles to transfer energy to the arms which then transfer the energy to the club (kinematic sequence).The hands merely hold on to the club VERY LIGHTLY.Soft hands allow the "snap" to happen automatically.
TheNYgolfer 5 months ago
its not called a snap sam, its called proper release ;)
FullTimeHypocrite 6 months ago
@emncaity one thing i forgot to mention is that snead "does" use his body and legs to generate power! he's so natural he thinks it's his hands, yes you can generate more power and extra clubhead speed through lag,but at a price,accuracy! the straightest hitters have fairly passive hands,kite for instance,compared to seve, you need to connect your body to the clubhead to transfer the momentum created by your body and legs at impact it's physics mass x velocity = momentum,you need both
fradaja 7 months ago
@fradaja
I've seen the explanations for NG, and I just don't think the advantage of making one plane with the arms and club outweighs the tension and artificiality of it. For some, it works really well. But IMHO, the hands and arms are built in a way that makes the conventional hold the best balance of advantages and disadvantages. OTOH, I'd never tell anybody not to try something they think might be a breakthrough for them, especially when it's been proven by at least some good players.
emncaity 8 months ago
@fradaja
As for Moe Norman, well...it's hard to argue with success so great that top-level tour pros would say this guy was the most consistent striker they ever saw, at least as good as Hogan, according to some. However, theoretically, I'm not so convinced that the wrists are that much of a nightmare, except to the extent that you can make the movement of any body "part" (because "part" is just an idea we use for convenience anyway) a nightmare if you overthink it enough.
emncaity 8 months ago