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@shamounian Islam is a religin that stands by itself! It neither needs christianity nor Judaism or any other religion to legitimize itself! If I use the same argument as you most of the beliefs of these groups refute and expose Paul of Tarsus the prophet of modern Christianity! Besides, the devinity of Jesus is central in Pauline Christianity, while in islam only God is devine and Jesus is only one of the numerous God's prophets!
ArmenFirman01 1 year ago
this is in no ways what's used to legitimize islam. don't get carried away by your own biasses, insecurities, and biggotry. why couldn't you look at it as a way to bring muslims and christians together instead of immediately attacking something because it slightly (or greatly) shakes what you believe in? if you are seriously interested in figuring out truth from falsehood, I suggest you go out and SEARCH.
melmeshad 2 years ago
thats the main point.
zafthedon 2 years ago
all the groups are individual groups - he called to them showing that there was a belief that christ did not die - as people laugh at this assertion - it isnt a uncommon belief in christain history that christ didnt die.
zafthedon 2 years ago
you know the people that kept Mosiac law and believed in Jesus pbuh as the messiah but not divine. As we know most of early history of christainty is in mystery anyway.
zafthedon 2 years ago
salaam
what about the ebonites and the early Jerusalem church more importantly.
zafthedon 2 years ago
nobody is talking about Muhammad pbuh - we're talking about the early church and how it could be seen in the light of Islam and the Qurans position whcih you clearly have not read.
zafthedon 2 years ago
salaam
these were not early chrisatins ?????
The Jewish christains???
the ebonites, the Nazerenes, - rejected the idea of the mosiac law being abrogated by Paul.
what about the
THE JERUSALEM CHURCH - that has to be part of early christainty.
zafthedon 2 years ago
The only way he can draw any conclusions to legitimize Islam is by selectively choosing whatever beliefs from these groups he likes, but then ignoring all the others that refute and expose Muhammad. For example, if you accept the gnostic or docetic rejection of Jesus' crucifixion then you must accept their belief that Jesus was fully Divine and wasn't truly human since matter is evil. And a Divine Jesus wouldn't take a material body.
shamounian 2 years ago
It seems that I am talking to a brick wall. These were NOT early Christianities, i.e. views held and taught by the disciples of Christ. Most of the groups he is talking about only flourished in the 2nd century. Besides, if these alternate versions are legit then Muhammad is a false prophet. Stop ignoring that fact.
shamounian 2 years ago