England Vs West Germany - Englands third goal
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and since then a referee has never been on our side
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Why didn't Roger Hunt throw himself at the ball to make sure it cross the line so there be no debate?
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@kisbie we play argentina in 2014? good really coz they havent beaten england at all since 1998.
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@DrWhoFreak100 The most forensic examinations show it was not quite fully over, but we're 1-1 with the Germans now anyway, so I think we should all just shut up about the whole thing forever. (Instead, let's get Mr. Rooney's handball skills worked out for when we play Argentina in 2014.)
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@kisbie its weird coz at one angle it is fully over the line but at another its on the line. so to me its still inconclusive
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@DrWhoFreak100 No, the rules clearly state that the whole of the ball should have to cross the line. Though technically, the only thing that makes a goal truly count is the referee and linesman saying so. End of.
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it was more over the line than not, which counts as a goal. end of
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braininahat and Nuttybot you're both right and wrong. Yes, Hunt though it crossed the line as did all trhe English and so he began celebrating rather than tapping the ball in (Personally I would have tapped it in anyway just to be safe but whatever), but the truth is, it was not a goal. It's hard to make out becasue of the goalkeeper blocking our view but there was some study about it which concluded that the ball was 6cm away from fully crossing the line, so therefore no goal.
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@braininahat No, that is not correct. If you watch the video closely Roger Hunt (No 21) arrives BEFORE the German defender, and could easily have reached the ball and headed it in as it rose from the goal-line. That is what you would normally expect a striker to do. But he didn't even TRY to do that...because he believed the ball had already crossed the line, he checked his run, stopped, and turned to celebrate the goal.
And WHERE exactly is your proof of this "collusion"???
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@Nuttybott And your analysis is wrong too. The German player comes in after he does and has to jump to head it over the bar. Basically, you're claiming that the English player could have jumped higher than the German, headed the ball higher in the air than the German, and headed the ball in a higher spot (to head it into goal) than the German --- all without the advantage of as good a running start and while being closer to the ball. He raised his hand because he couldn't score it.
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@Nuttybott I do understand what 'cheating' means, which is why I didn't say this is where England cheated. It's a putative belief, except in England and Germany, that the German referee gave the Argentinian captain a red card for basically nothing in their quarter final game versus England. Neither England nor Germany were as good as Argentina that year, and the only chance Germany had of winning was to face England in the final, and the only chance England had was collusion.
but, the germans will say if that hadnt been allowed, it may have been different (even though england were playing extremely well in the final and probably would have won anyway) and us english will say if lampards goal had been given on june the 27th 2010 it could have been a different game...but we all know, eventually, both games would have had the same outcome, but thats football for you
Arsenalgunner27 1 year ago 4
@Arsenalgunner27 your really funny mate, "Germany outplayed england that day?", yeah mate thats why it was 4-2. dont bother bull-shitting anymore or i will delete te comments. also the whole world know we won it, only you think we "bought it"
Jswan500 1 year ago
as an englishman, I dont feel as if that crossed the line...I actually feel like a traitor but I wouldnt like to win a world cup by cheating, undeserved. But then again, the fact it was 4-2 does make it seem like it doesnt matter...however if that hadnt gone in it could have been a different game....but then again, the fact that a goal for england (which was a goal no doubt) was dissallowed in knockout game does kinda make this feel justified.
Arsenalgunner27 1 year ago
@Arsenalgunner27 it think your right mate, unfortunately. I saw a programme recently where they used computer generators and part of the ball was still on the line. not sure how accurate the computer was, maybe made by a german? lol
Jswan500 1 year ago