Mike Says good Bye, well to his career

They mad a huge mistake not picking Mike Gravel. All you are going to get is another Neo-con who came down here to keep the party from growing. The Linertrains fell for it completely. All you are going to hear is more we can and were going to do it with no ultimate solution. The NI4D was the solution and you rejected the one who crafted it...Are the Libertarians going to endorse this proposal or are they just going to talk about freedom and not believe it.

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[KommisarKowl]

Yes, I agree the 'Linertrains' made a huge mistake in not choosing an insane old man to ruin their party's chances of growing.

[Voiceofjon]

Please tell me how he is crazy

[kyeot]

Unless you voted for the NI4D you dont deserve an opinion.

[Voiceofjon]

Isnt that the truth

[Vektor417]

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VOTE GRAVEL IN 'O8

[TXkingMN]

gravel would be better than obama n way better than mcclain as president

[Whoo69]

On major social issues like the right to marry, is federalism REALLY more important than standing up for liberty??

[Whoo69]

We cannot allow states to deny people their federal constitutional rights. Right to choose, right to marry, etc. States' rights only applies when the states can't deny you your rights as 50 individual entities. When a state CAN (and has) denied people the right to marry, you have to step in and say "enough is enough!" Maybe states can regulate gay adoption, but they cannot regulate against gay marriage. States' rights isn't nearly as broad as Barr or Paul would like it.

[Whoo69]

It seems the LP only cares about protecting corporations from "excessive" regulation, not helping the little guy or protecting social liberty, like the right to choose or the right to marry. Do you really think Bob Barr is gonna legalize gay marriage?? He's just gonna hide behind 'states rights' as an excuse to stay conservative and not legislate against these things on the federal level, just like Ron Paul. But states rights don't apply when it comes to constitutional rights!

[Whoo69]

Gravel believed in a National Initiative. Did Barr?? Hell no. Barr is a typical Republican on social issues: anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, anti-euthanasia, etc. Hell, I don't even think he's that much of an anti-drug war proponent! He voted FOR the Patriot Act and Iraq War, and all of a sudden he just changed his mind in the past few years. Gravel KNEW where he stood, and he was against the Patriot Act and the war from the beginning. Gravel is also pro-gun and a libertarian liberal.

[Whoo69]

Mike Gravel was much more of a libertarian than Bobb Barr. Why is the Libertarian Party so knee-deep in corporate power?? Why do they always defend the corporations against the little guy, as if that's somehow giving us "more economic freedom"?? What about the economic freedom of the worker NOT to have his job outsourced? What about economic freedom to go into a job and know that you can leave at any time, rather than being forced to leave b/c the co. wants MORE money??

[jonnanw]

Sorry - you're right, would never happen.

[jonnanw]

Well, theoretically, it might result in a system where people might, say, push bad mortgage agreements upon the uneducated, then slice up those risky mortgages to 'spread the risk out' until it becomes a massive unaccounted for risk that paralyzes the markets, creating some sort of financial snowball effect, squeezing credit, and undermining the very institutions that provide credit until the government is forced to intercede before a complete collapse, socializing risk while privatizing profit.

[gobbledygookie]

Wonder what he thinks of Bob Barr

[truthout911]

And the LP party in 2002 to get him throw out of his GA rep seat, because of his leading stance on the drug war while in congress. In 2001 he voted for the Patriot Acts and Homeland Security. In 2002 he vote for the Iraq resolution. So there are you still a FUCKING IDIOT or A DUMBASS NAZI. in 2007 his PACs donated to republican candidate of LPs. Now Mr. StealthNAZI, show me his love for the LP.

[stealthswimmer]

From 1990 to 1991, Barr was president of the Southeastern Legal Foundation,[7] an Atlanta-based law firm and policy center that litigates in support of "limited government, individual economic freedom, and the free enterprise system - from Wikipedia (for what it's worth)

And he has joined the Marijuana Policy Project. So there.

Still mad?

=P