stewart lee - don't get me started - part 1

what's wrong with blasphemy? stewart lee discusses blasphemy and its place in comedy with various political and religious types. and alan moore.

Category:

Comedy

Tags:

• stewart
• lee
• religion
• blasphemy
• alan
• moore
• comedy
• jerry
• springer
• opera

[bambieyedbeauty]

"They are nonetheless...divs" :D

[rulyruly7]

"...on the grounds that it isn't 1508." Hahaha, this dude is fucking great.

[autumnspiders]

@itsayellowfig I'm pretty sure most liberals condemned the persecution of the Danish cartoonist.

[fritspas]

"At the end of the day..." the bloke in yellow sounds like a football player

[Webbula]

Thamk God I'm an atheist.

[NickOLarse999]

DIVS

[MrJackonion]

@EbsNhexz Wise words, I had a sinking feeling this would rattle on for pages. Good to exchange some ideas in a civilised way though. All the best!

[EbsNhexz]

@MrJackonion I am fighting back my desire to dispute what you just expressed, but you are right in saying that this is a different debate.(Nice use of Wildean, I would perceive it as a compliment if I wasn't clear of your intention) Our views on the applications of comedy differ. I think that is the only conclusion we can settle on.

take care mate.

[MrJackonion]

@EbsNhexz There is a potentially huge debate to be had here, and I haven't got the time to type my thoughts and do them full justice. I don't think that the act of gay intercourse is deserving of the same level of public approval as heterosexual sex within marriage is. One produces life, the other doesn't. The church merely reflects this idea, it's not bigoted. Your Wildean inversion of my point is clever but doesn't hold water; laughter trivialises, and some things shouldn't be trivialised.

[EbsNhexz]

@MrJackonion malevolence or not it is still a flawed opinion and has been detrimental to the human rights of homosexuals, it goes way beyond recognising a slight distinction into the realms of bigotry. I do not condemn faith, I have my own version of it. But religion should not be exempt from satire nor should politics or any area of human existence.I could just as easily state that these things are too important not to be laughed at.

[MrJackonion]

Most Christians believe in the sanctity of sexual union as the way to create new life and emphasise the role of the family in bringing up children. Out of this grows an attitude of kindly disapproval toward those who embrace homosexuality. It's a far more nuanced stance than is often suggested and is rarely a result of plain malevolence (controversy courting channel 4 documentaries aside). Comedy is not a suitable arena to discuss these things, they are too important to be laughed at.

[MrJackonion]

When particular members of a particular religion do something that is particularly worthy of satire, then I can see the worth of them being publicly condemned and satire plays it's part in that. But too often comics attack faith per se, and they often take some disingenuous moral stance like "well they are horrible to gays so they deserve it" or "they fiddle with children" to justify their jokes. But they are really trying to gain attention (and financial gain) by shocking their audience.