Creation vs. Evolution: Amazing Bird Migration
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interesting video and very informative
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some really good stuff here
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you have some great stuff here
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@1brandwag Thanks for the respectful answers, glad this sort of thing can be discussed even on youtube without people always resorting to insults and mud flinging. Have many Christian friends although I am more a scientific rationalist, but regardless of beliefs what always matters most is respect for our fellow humans, something too many people forget sadly in their quest to be proved 'right' :)
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On a final note these spaces are quite short and much more can be written on this subject.one ministry called gotquestion, which you can find at gotquestion com. Are always more than happy to answer theological problems such as these if it is not in their article base already,have a look at their site if you interest.Also on my youtube page my site is linked which has list of christian apologetics sites which can be of great help.hope that helps,sincerely brandwag
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@terrabunthank you for being open to my answer on original sin. We can what defenies evil in a non-theological standard?But i'll assume we both believe human sacrifice is wrong for the sake of argument.OT does condemn human sacrifice in the law of moses as an important point.Abraham i guess was tested on his faith and in the context of the event it was never in God's plan to actaully have him sacrifice his son,as God provided the lamb,we need OT to know who Jesus is as well,e.g.Prophyses
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@1brandwag Ok, I accept your argument on original sin (even though I disagree on the implications). But then how about Abraham, ordered to murder his own child to prove his faith? How can any good person possibly reconcile that with a God who claims to be loving, merciful and kind? To me it is simply reprehensible and plain evil (in the non-theological sense). To me Christianity would be a far stronger faith if it abandoned the Old Testament and the bloody, vengeful God it describes.
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@terrabun The fruit is rebelion as God's simple instruction was disobeyed and eating the fruit also represented listening to the enemy Satan,and a will of man to be like God, so rebellion has to be punished,as the very created order and God sovereignty was challenged.redemption doesn't not need to be offered by a soveriegn God,but was as he is a merciful God.The answer is theological as your question also was,sorry I used to replies couldn't fit it all into one.I understand this is difficult.
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@terrabun It's the same God Jesus also spoke of punishment for those who rebel against God.Firstly if you take into account the sovereignty of God and acknowledge who he is we can realize that he is our judge and not us his.Secondly it is not a mere mistake,but rebelion,adam and eve themselve probally were saved in their repentance after,but as with most parent interested in their children punishment occured as was laid out.However redemption was always offered to those who had faith.
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@1brandwag But why does God (at least the Old Testament one) need to be so intolerant and vengeful? What parent would cast out their children and inflict evil and suffering on them for their FIRST mistake? Why should anybody give allegiance to a being (of any nature) who threatens eternal damnation and torment should they refuse? Simply so we can be redeemed and thus eternally grateful for being released from suffering by the very one who instigated that suffering in the first place?
Isn't evolution wonderful.
gregrutz 2 years ago 25
I didnt think creationist BS could get any more ridiculous.... well i guess i was wrong.
Wrahns 10 months ago 3