Part 2: Taiwan -- The Raising of the Flag

A simple derivation of Taiwan's true international legal status can be made based on a consideration of what flag(s) should have been raised at the Japanese surrender ceremonies on Oct. 25, 1945, and after the San Francisco Peace Treaty came into effect on April 28, 1952.

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[Enigmatism415]

The original intention was in the spirit of a Chinese Taiwan, under an internationally acceptable, unified Chinese nation. During the first opportunity for legal determination, the US was hesitant to return Taiwan to a young communist PRC, but also could not return it to a weakened, vulnerable ROC. The US now has the means to grant Taiwan to the ROC, creating two Chinas, until unification can be realized. The PRC would sooner consent to a temporary Two-China policy than to an independent Taiwan.

[tprophet77]

The San Francisco Peace Treaty came into force in late April 1952. Taiwan was not given to "China." There is no way to change that now. The US remains committed to a One China Policy. The ROC in Taiwan is (1) a subordinate occupying power, beginning Oct. 25, 1945, and (2) a government in exile, beginning Dec. 10, 1949.

The United States of America is the principal occupying power. There has been no change in these statuses to date.

[tprophet77]

But Taiwan is not yet recognized as an independent country, for the simple reason that the Taiwanese have not "negotiated" with the USA to begin that process. The Taiwanese continue to hold large street protests against the "Republic of China" government, but the ROC government does not have final say on the disposition of Taiwan, the US does. The ROC is only a government in exile, which is conducting a proxy occupation of Taiwan.

[tprophet77]

Taiwan is not part of the PRC, but it is not independent either. Please view my other videos for a full explanation.

[superargent]

我正需要一面合乎台灣現狀的旗幟。

[gto1159]

反侵略 反併吞

中華人民共和國已是主權獨立的國家

不隸屬台灣 (連一分鐘都沒有過)

台灣已是主權獨立的國家

不隸屬中華人民共和國 (連一分鐘都沒有過)

[BigMTBrain]

@tprophet77 - Why did you continue to post your opinion AFTER the U.S. Government had already successfully defended itself AGAINST your argument in United States District Court for the District of Columbia and received a favorable judgment on March 18, 2008 and again on later appeal by the plaintiff?

[BigMTBrain]

@mrbig118 - Ha ha ha. This guy is only stating his *opinion*. Clearly, the U.S. government doesn't view things as he does, nor do I or 99.999999999% of the citizens of the U.S. The U.S. has absolutely no intention of flying the U.S. flag over the territory of Taiwan, nor does it have the desire to annex Taiwan. The Taiwan Relations Act of 1979 makes that very clear. Again, this guy is only stating HIS perspective and desire.

[Enigmatism415]

@tprophet77

The ROC is only a government in exile if it is not granted territory, and in fact, the ROC (to my knowledge) has been the legal government of Kinmen and Matsu since the founding of the Republic by Sun Yat-sen in 1912, as Japan had never officially annexed those territories, and the CCP was never able to capture them. It is frustrating to me, as a supporter of an eventually unified China (not necessarily under ROC or PRC), to have such unfortunate historical timing delay that dream.

[Enigmatism415]

@tprophet77

I don't think we disagree on the current legal state of Taiwan, which, since the SFPT, has remained undetermined and under the jurisdiction of the principal occupying power, the United States. I think our disagreement lies in the future of the Island. I am simply saying, that while the legal state of Taiwan remains, the original intention of all parties involved was for Taiwan to eventually be returned to A China; the Chinese civil war was the primary obstacle in that realization.

[catsass19]

long live the ROC and Taiwan !!!!

[cnjptw]

歡迎歡迎! 熱烈歡迎美軍回來台灣