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Happy Landings 3 - Vortex Ring Bellyflop - DCS Black Shark

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Uploaded by on Feb 17, 2009

I'm including this video completely out of peer pressure.
By this time I only had a handful of flights under my belt, so I couldn't understand why I had gotten sucked toward the ground....twice. Very embarrassing. Later I found out about the vortex ring anomaly resulting from the rotor downwash, which can quickly pull you down into the ground from a hover before you can even react if you don't descend carefully and slowly.
I've already taken my fair share of abuse over this flight even before I put it up here, but it's still entertaining, if cringe-worthy, to watch.

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  • bad pilot ?

  • @maxtower

    Jerkoff user comment?

    More like "new pilot".

  • You probably already know this but if you ever suspect you are in a descending vortex ring state, pitch forward immediately to get some airspeed.. you can fly out of the ring, gain much needed lift and save the aircraft.

  • It took me a moment to realize what was happening, and by that time it was too late :)

  • you are using too much collective when you fly, whatch the two yellow lights on the warning display.

  • Thanks. I was still new to the sim at the time and had confused those warning lights for something else.

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  • Do a high fast verticle decent and pull up colective to get yourself in vr state. Its possible to be flying downwind and your have zero airspeed as your traveling with the wind and get yourself in vr state. To escape, just put your nose down and build up speed and or lower your colective fully down as it can't exist without power. Any steep decent should be taken with extreme caution. Try looking at your verticle speed indicator when decending fast. try autorotate then flair with power recovery.

  • I'm a student learning to fly a real helicopter. I have been in vortex ring state at 2000 ft as demonstration. vr state means your going into your own downwash and a vortex (recycling around the blade tips) builds. When you pull up the collective it will push you down. When near the ground (in ground effect) you won't getinto vr state but out of gorund effect you can by decending too fast. When slower than 30 knotts airspeed or decending too fast. Try verticle but as slow as you can.

  • lol@flipper 3:25

    I swear, learning how to fly this thing was worth 10 times the price of the game alone. Because of how challenging the game is, the feeling of achievement whenever one finally 'gets' something is extremely high.

    So many failures, and so much fun!

  • @zzodr Yup, very true. Also, depending on altitude obviously, you can enter an autorotation until you are clear of the downwash. Then push forward to gain airspeed and pull in power and hopefully you haven't smacked into something much harder than yourself :P

  • I love how it's yelling at you for being over the RPM limit and you just turn off the warning alarms, instead of lowering the throttle...it is indeed fun to learn DCS! I remember when I started playing, my rotors exploded about 6 times in a row before i had to google "why are my rotors exploding"

  • This game looks like a lot of fun, when you were tearing around over the airbase. But I just don't know if my compy can handle it.

  • Thank God you were in the Kamov and not an Apache or something non co-axial... would have spun out of control very nicely for you :D.

    I'm more of a fast air guy, so I've struggled to fall in love with Black Shak despite it being one of the best sims ever released on the PC.

    Bad luck with the vortex ring though, it can catch you out and put you in a lot of trouble very quickly if you don't react to the first signs of it... i.e. becoming a burning hole in the perimeter fence :P.

  • I'm suprised the window didn't fly off your cokpit.

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