Mutiny on the Storozhevoy 1975 Part 1 of 3

The true story that inspired Tom Clancys' The Hunt for the Red October

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[esh1]

@alieu156 "No representation without taxation" ;) US is plutocracy where the ruling elite according to citibank are 3% of entire population.

The fear of communism or socialism coming here is very real after Iran war, depending on outcome and petrodollar value. Middle class will disappear overnight and upperclass slowly but surely!

[esh1]

@nightkraawler have you had a look recently at current state of affairs? The system is broke, the economy is f***Ed, nytimes can't get their fingers out of their asses till they have entirely demolished the constitution along with the neoCUNTservatives and republicunts, by no means the democrats are any less. But what cave have you been living under?

Incase your family lived during Bolshevik revolution and got rich while in red army or Cheka, well let's just say, I understand your perspective n

[alieu156]

@nightkraawler What I meant was that success wasn't limited to rich people, which it mostly is in capitalist countries. The reality is that most people who are rich in capitalist countries owe it to having rich parents and most people who are poor are poor due to having poor parents. That's just the reality. Rich people give their children the best education, which means they get the best jobs, which means they make the most money, and the cycle continues. No system is perfect.

[nightkraawler]

@alieu156 you just said in your previous comment that ''noone is privileged simply because they have wealthy parents'', which is total bullshit. Human nature does not change just because there's a different social/economic system in place.Those with power will put their family members/friends in power before someone else, it's just the way it is, so stop being naive.

[alieu156]

@nightkraawler Which country was it? I said that there was no "ruling class" in the Soviet Union. I didn't say that having family connections wouldn't help someone to succeed. No system is perfect. What you described could happen in any system. You think that having a relative in the police doesn't make it easier to get a job there in capitalist countries? How do you think George W Bush became president of the US? Through merit?

[nightkraawler]

@alieu156 grew up in one from 68-81 , had uncles that were cops there, and relatives that were in the communist party, they all hooked each other up with positions in the govmnt, covered each others crimes, mostly minor stuff ..though serious enough in that system to send someone to jail for a few years. Fear is the only way to keep a system like that strong or successful and only those with positions in govrnmnt really get all they need.

[alieu156]

@nightkraawler When did you live in a communist system?

[lewislowis]

communism, capitalism,socialism. are all the same thing (in nut shell per say) they are all isms.

[nightkraawler]

@alieu156 LMAO , u are funny, in a ''communist'' system connections either through family or friends of the family are the most common ways to ensure one's success up the ladder.You obviously have not lived under communism , so do not preach your idealistic trash if you have no idea what you are talking about. Are there some exceptions? Sure. But not the norm.Who you know is more important than what you know, in communism that is the #1 rule , even more so than in a capitalist system

[nightkraawler]

Lmao looking at 3:30 with the missles on the back of the truck ...,those missles are bouncing around in back of the truck like they are made of cardboard, in fact I wouldnt be surprised if those things are empty and just for show. It's not like they would need to have the real missles to make the people proud, after all, who would question it if they were fake?