Are Anarchists Naive?

Incomplete recording, the full audio is here: http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traffic_Jams/FDR_611_Call_In_Show_Jan_21_2007.mp3

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[riorio23]

Well self defence is violence and i am sure your not condeming that so there are exceptions to your rule 'violance is bad'.

[stefbot]

Sure! Self-defense is to violence as surgery is to stabbing.

[saxmanmax]

Wouldn't minarchy be a good transitional phase between the state and market anarchy?

[stefbot]

I don't think that 'less slavery' is the solution to 'slavery' - gradualism in theory is perpetualism in practice...

[parispeter2]

Sorry for repeating: I thought the first one hadn't got posted! But I could add that if states are violent, that violence is delegated (in democracies) by individuals. And so the solution is not abolishing the state (violent drives would remain in individuals and be freely expressed as we see in Somalia etc.) but channelling and sublimating violence through business, sport and culture and ultimately reducing it through education.

[stefbot]

Somalian violence is fostered by external governments such as the US, which sells arms to various groups. I certainly agree that we need a philosophical framework to deal with issues of violence. Thanks for watching! :)

[Barrettatsumaki]

Maybe it's an arrogant & ignorant standpoint, but I wouldn't say that it's ill-intentioned.

[Barrettatsumaki]

In response to your last point, maybe these people you are talking about (e.g. Ron Paul) simply want to take over this system because they think that, while we do have these corrupt systems in place, at least they will be able to minimize the damages of it more than others. Perhaps it isn't the power over others that motivates them, but rather a belief that better it's them controlling it than someone who has more sinister intentions.

[Motherlandpluto]

Was it your daughter you asked to sit down?

[64TbirdLandau]

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[cjrsoccer1]

@MarmaladeINFP Saying he's naive isn't really an argument - you're just stating your conclusions.

I'd invite you to check out "Would anarchy create governments" for a response to your concerns about a "new form of oppression."

[alistairproductions]

I would prefer to only get punched in the face on the Tuesdays and Thursdays when I am in a good mood, I don't like getting punched when I'm in a bad mood

[mysty0]

Ya., you are naive lmao

Im aboriginal mate so I understand the basic law of nature some refer to as the law of retaliation.., and tribally we have dedicated law keepers so that retaliation is executed and both sides understand its grounds., those we call lawmen who are authorised to use force also understand the principle of the law of retaliation so act within the confines of what is lawful

You white have really gone and screwed this shit right up havent ya

[BJ151]

@BJ151 We are easily conditioned in every society, so it just takes a person/people with a desire for greed to be conditioned that violence is a fast, profitable way to feed off of the rest, to create chaos again:p (unfortunately)

[BJ151]

I think that both options are naive, because if you take human nature/reality into account, then you're dealing with genes and everything it implies. (personality traits like narcissism,neuroticism) I believe that the power of a society that views violence as BAD doesn't measure up against the power of the shortcomings of humans.