Part 3 The Book of Mormon and New World DNA
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@omiolo I've just noticed on many of these videos you ramble on & on about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the video, & it's never in response to anyone's comment either.
Is this the only forum you have to copy articles (or whatever it is you're doing)? What reason do you have for all the endless drivel that's not even on topic?
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@omiolo No, comprehension has nothing to do with it, much like your posts have nothing to do with the videos you post under. I see I'm not alone in wondering why you "ramble on & on." Is it your way of being a troll?
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There is no such thing as 'LDS science', there is such thing as 'bias science', as to say 'interpreting the small datum to support my weird religion'-science. You see science, as a human endeavor, can stand on its own... as opposed to Religion which has an old, or if you are a Mormon 'newish', piece of literature written by unscientific narrators... Also, 'unpublished' means unscientific...
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You are right. Nothing we say & no amount of evidence we provide will ever change their minds or beliefs.
In his book, "Shaken Faith Syndrome," Michael R. Ash stated, "Some ex-members have even claimed that if there was irrefutable evidence that Mormonism was true, they would still reject the Church & rebel against God because of the things they found distasteful."
I think that is true of many anti-Mormons.
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@GaryKColeman nickleus1977 just blocks people, when he thinks they are lying too him. I never lied to him, he just never let me explain to him. He, like many others, just simply don't like the LDS church, they simply like to talk bad about the church without being open to other possibilities.
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The change to the BoM intro was announced to the press. That isn't much of a "cover-up."
Science has shown that the earth is a couple of billion yrs old.
The Bible says God created the earth & everything on it in 6 days. Jewish & Christian prophets & other religious leaders have been teaching that for millennia. Even Jesus, the Son of God, did nothing to correct that false teaching.
Are you angry with them also?
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Did you come up with this all by yourself, or did you get it from Southerton's playbook?
A careful reading of the BoM shows that there were "others" here. Southerton even states, "In 600 BC there were probably several million American Indians living in the Americas." His other claim about a "whole empty hemisphere" puts his claims against the BoM in serious trouble.
Archaeology shows that the Americas had inhabitants 13,000 to 15,000 years ago.
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I am not assuming any multi-cultural mixes. I am talking about one culture of 30 people entering a well established culture of tens of thousands and inter-mixing. The smaller culture would be swallowed genetically. Y-chr & mtDNA are not practical for trying to find the minority culture 2,000 yrs later.
Autosomal shows greater promise to finding all ancestry. Unfortunately, this testing has been done on only about 3,600 Native Americans.....end
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You are absolutely right, atDNA would show their complete ancestry.
But I said "Using the same tests that Murphy & Southerton used, one can prove that those children have Swedish ancestry, and that the boys have Danish ancestry too, but NO ONE can prove that they also have Japanese ancestry." Y-chr & mtDNA can trace only the direct paternal line & the direct maternal line, but nothing in-between. Going back to the 10th gen, 510 ancestors are not accounted for....cont.
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"No One can prove that they also have Japanese ancestry" read about autosomal dna (atdna).
i would like to give fairlds credit for at least allowing comments contrary to what they believe so that open debate may take place. thanks =)
nickleus1977 9 months ago
@nickleus1977 Actually, we state just the opposite on our homepage. Be careful.
fairldsorg 7 months ago
your channel's flagship video (this video) is 2.5 years old. here's a quote from Ugo Perego's most recent conclusion on the subject, from the fairlds website: "the DNA of Lehi and his party has not been detected in modern Native American populations"
nickleus1977 1 year ago
@nickleus1977 And I agree with him. We will never detect Lehi DNA in the Americas, simply because we don't know what Lehis DNA looked like.
fairldsorg 1 year ago
@fairldsorg the issue is not lehi's dna, it's finding mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) in native "americans" today that matches mtDNA in jerusalem.
nickleus1977 1 year ago
@nickleus1977 I am not sure how much Ugo has looked into the SNP data that is mentioned in this video, therefore, cannot comment on his beliefs. I am also curious why you are only interested in mitochondrial DNA?
fairldsorg 1 year ago