The Complete Idiot's Guide to Faith part 1

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Believing in things not seen can explain how man has become the dominant species, taming all others, and changing the face of the planet with man's imagination, making all kinds of things yet not seen. Man's ability to have faith in things not seen are how we invent tools, and overcome animals that are faster, stronger, and have deadly claws and teeth. Every blueprint, every plan is faith in the substance of things hoped for yet not seen.

Because it has come up a couple times already - not saying that imagination, faith and miracles are the same thing, but like a square, a rectangle and a trapizoid, they may share overlapping common characteristics.

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[Dhorpatan]

There is no such thing as God. I have already proven this with the Laws of Logic.

[miking193]

@Dhorpatan how to know to trust logic as such a great tool, we use logic, thus it's circular logic right.

[miking193]

@Dhorpatan i watched your how to disprove God in 3 minutes or less, needless to say I'm still a Christian. You miss or confuse many concepts about infinity God & the universe. If God is outside the universe he's not bound to the the laws of the universe you said this can't be because all there is is the universe how do we know that, who defined the universe that way, man could made up these definitions about what is the universe & been wrong, like when they thought Ireland was the furthest west

[miking193]

saying God exist outside of the universe, or outside of existence, is not an accurate description of how God describes being the creator either making you ignorant, dishonest, or both the point about God existing outside of the universe, is talking about the world live in, the world accessable to us, God says he created the whole thing, & interacts with this world, & is independent of it, he existed before this creation the word universe doesn't fit the universe is dependent upon him creating it

[killallneds]

@miking193 way i see god is like someone playing sim's on computer, he dont live in same world, all 'sims' are made in his image, and he created the whole world everyone lives in :D lot more simalaritys if you think of it that way;)

[miking193]

@killallneds ok thank you

[killallneds]

@miking193 god lives in a univers outside of ours one without time (no start/no end) think like a parelel univers sorta thing were hes still able to interact with this universe. way i see it anyways

[killallneds]

@miking193 it works though so whats the problem?

[killallneds]

@sergiomarchelli aahh.. i cant wait till that day :D n makes the most sence with refrence to god like he's the programe n since you yourself cant enter digital world how do you make them listen/believe in you?

[sergiomarchelli]

@killallneds I think maybe will succed in this, so will know how God is feeling when we reject Him. In fact they can explore the world, to make their own science or belief system. But they won't understand that all this is done with just words... ;-).

[killallneds]

@sergiomarchelli just how great would that be a game were folk have free will to do what they like:P right im gonna be working on that hopefully be a millionaire once i get programing sorted:P lol

[sergiomarchelli]

@Dhorpatan HAhahahahahah. All the best philosophers didn't but prived this, but you did. Hahaha. Ignorance is blessing. Stay blessed.

[sergiomarchelli]

@killallneds yes and one day we will create some beings in the virtual world that have free will and the most fun part will be when they start to deny the programer's existance. Hahah.