Why I'm Mormon 3 Joseph Smith

Why I'm Mormon part 3. Mormons and Joseph Smith. Why he was a prophet, and what he did.

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[Reazzurro90]

So what evidence exists that there has been an apostasy? The early Christian fathers always confronted people that accused the Church of having fallen away. They consistently wrote against it and defended the Tradition of the Apostles. These are early writings that have been consistent throughout the centuries. Why should Mormonism be regarded as any differently?

Further, since Mormonism started in the 1800s, during this apostasy, everyone went to hell?

[WhyImMormon]

@Reazzurro90 The problem was these "early Christian fathers" that you speak of. They were the results of the Apostasy. In the NT, Christ clearly conferred power and ordained his Apostles to lead the Church after He died. Show me where that same thing took place after the 12 Apostles died. Even in the life of the Apostles there was apostasy all about.

The Reformation is another wonderful example of people realizing this.

[Svperstarr]

Also Joseph Smith was not a martyr, he died in a gun fight and shot several men before he was kill. You don't even know your own churches history.

[WhyImMormon]

@Svperstarr Guess you need to look at it closer too. He had a single shot pistol that never fired. Can't argue with ballistics, dude.

[TheTwoSense]

Joseph Smith was not a prophet and was not Christ like as you claim. I'm going to be posting a video responce to show you.

[cezza57]

whyimmormon.

it says in detueronemy (spelling) in the bible that if a so called prophet spoke on behalf of god and the thing did not come to pass then he is a false prophet.

joey had alot of false prophercies and yes he spoke in gods name...so therefore he is a false prophert - do u agree? note* it only takes 1 false prophercy to be a false prophert*

..i can see why mormons pick n choose what scriptures they like best from the bible and disregard others - makes sense right?

[GaryKColeman]

@Svperstarr

Joseph & his brother Hyrum were prisoners in the Carthage jail when 200 armed men attacked, murdering both of them & wounding John Taylor. Only after Hyrum was killed did Joseph fire a six-shot pistol in defense of John Taylor, Willard Richards, & himself.

Four men, with 2 pistols, against 200 armed men is called self-defense, not "a gunfight."

[GaryKColeman]

@WhyImMormon

Correction: Joseph had a six-shot, pepperbox pistol. When Hyrum was murdered by the attackers, Joseph fired at the mobbers to protect his friends and himself. Only three of the rounds discharged, hitting three men. However, none of the men died from the wounds......See more at fairlds.org.....

[WhyImMormon]

@Reazzurro90 You better think before you type. There were way more than just 4 writers in the Old Testament. 2nd, he didn't get revelation for the book, he translated it. The D&C was revealed, not the BOM. 3rd, read your history. The original manuscript was stolen and altered so if Joseph would have translated the exact same thing, then the thieves would claim he was a fake by not presenting the same thing. It's all there, buddy.

[Reazzurro90]

@WhyImMormon

The difference here is that the writers of the New Testament Gospels were four different people, while Joseph Smith is one person. If he was given divine revelation to write down the book verbatim, then presumably it shouldn't have been that difficult to do so again once the missing pages were gone.

[michaelgrella]

@TheTwoSense you're wrong and right at the same time, you're wrong, because he was a prophet of God, and you are right, because he's not Christ, and Joseph Smith never claimed to be Christ, nor does the LDS church claim him to be Christ.

[WhyImMormon]

@TheTwoSense I never said that he was Christ. But he was a prophet.