shaolin grappling.mp4

Just sharing some knowledge for those who don't know there has been ground fighting and submission in Shaolin and all Kung Fu for centuries. Hope your knowledge is increased.

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• shaolin
• grappling

[ixachitlanabyayala]

@MartialArtistGuy1981 oh ok I see. Are you aware of any Chinese martial art that has ground fighting comparable to Kosen Judo and jujutsu and brazilian jujutsu?

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

@ixachitlanabyayala I am not familiar with this particular style of kung fu because I study a different one, however I do notice lots of chi na grappling involved. Shiu Jiao has some stuff like that I think although I am not sure if this is related to anything like that

[ixachitlanabyayala]

@MartialArtistGuy1981 Do you know what the name of the fighting system on this vid is called?

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

Search youtube for systema and look at some of the ground fight scenarios those guys use. They are hard to keep pinned on the ground because they wiggle like a worm out of most submissions and bad situations yet they pin people and trap them on the ground with strange joint locks that people do not see coming. I think all martial arts systems are technically equal but it never hurts to think outside of the box when it comes to laws of motion. Be like water ...

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

What I am getting at is that most martial arts systems train against predictable laws of motion or common scenarios but do not train against unpredictable movement or attacks from uncommon angles. You are what you study when you get into a fight so if you fight someone and have not studied the way they move then you perhaps will not be prepared for what they might do because they might know every possible way that you could move according to your style but they might move completely illogically

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

Here is a question for you guys... why don't we see systems like systema or dharma marga in UFC ? Those systems have great ground fighting and attack from angles that are difficult if not impossible to defend against, and they are not so well known. They have "strange" laws of motion involved that are not logical ways of moving and confuse most people when trying to defend against a system like that.This is just a hypothetical question. I actually love kung fu and study it but am also openminded

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

@kommisar If a person truly understands the laws of motion and truly understands how to move  then it does not matter which system they study and could do as Bruce Lee did and even make their own system and use what works best for their body type and their strengths and weaknesses. To say on style is inferior or not as good as another style is really a silly claim because they all have different strengths and weaknesses and different purposes and origins.

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

@kommisar This is why striking arts are better for "real life" situations and grappling arts are better once you have stunned an opponent or if you cannot use deadly force. Kung fu can take your entire life to master and it should because it teaches mastery over your movements and develops your core body muscles in order to make you less clumsy and able to fight without consciously thinking about the techniques or moves but instead by principles of motion and concepts.

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

@kommisar Outside of the ring I had much rather KO someone quickly with a striking or kicking technique rather than fall to the ground with them only for their buddies to walk up and start stomping me and have time to pull out weapons at which point you are royally screwed because then you are on the ground at their mercy with nowhere to go and don't even think about taking someone down who has a shotgun in that situation because you will get shot or something.

[MartialArtistGuy1981]

@kommisar ground fighting is a supplementary technique for situations involving usually one opponent / attacker. Outside of the ring a fighter should aspire to not fight and if you have to fight then you should be a striker first and a grappler second. In the ring it is the other way around because those are one on one matches and nobody is going to come up and stab you or shoot you in the ring ... at least not in the USA.