Nation columnist Naomi Klein explores a key argument from her new book, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism: After 9/11 the Bush Administration launched a new economy, driven by the notion of an endless war against an undefined notion of evil. Read more in her 2005 Nation column "The Rise of Disaster Capitalism."
@BustyerUniongoon as Mr sowell said "There are few things more dishonorable than misleading the young" Klein is an idiot. Plain and simple. Typical liberal that tried to put words into friedmans mouth as if he said it.
tehatemachine 1 week ago
The only ones who complain about capitalism are
A. The ones who aren't doing anything inorder to benifit from it
or
B. The ones who are benefiting from it by selling ideas that are mostly against it
tehatemachine 1 week ago
@DrunkenPoetic What is extreme about a condition that is so fundamentally instinctive, it intrinsically exists on its own, without being implemented by man? If you put 100 people on a deserted island, how extreme could the natural occurance be, that man would find themselves engaged in, by biological instinct alone? How could one consider the spontaneous phenomenon that would naturaly develop in place, if it were possible erase any existence of a random society's economy structure?
You from US?
BustyerUniongoon 1 week ago
@BustyerUniongoon What you describe as extreme left-wing is better described as centre-left or centre-right, depending on one's perspective.
Extreme left-wingers would call them extreme right-wing, while you call them extreme left-wing.
What Klein talks about most is democracy.
Every electorate in the world saw Friedman as a right-wing lunatic.
So he and his cohorts had to go to South America, eastern Europe and the Middle-East and impose their ideas from above on people too weak to resist.
DrunkenPoetic 1 week ago
@DrunkenPoetic Like most radical malcontents, Klein can articulate grievances but when it comes to alternatives, she is deliberately evasive. Komrade Klein can only muster the failed "ideas" regurgitated from the New Deal nanny-state era and Marxist wealth distribution gimmicks, salvaged from the socialism graveyard. In other writings its an untested workers co-op, to land redistribution and a green zero-profit serfdom.
Perhaps, the most Extreme & feckless ideas deposited in the Leftist Creed.
BustyerUniongoon 1 week ago
@BustyerUniongoon
But I didn't say unadulterated, I said extreme. It's an important difference.
I do think that the Chicago school economic model could be called extreme.
Her point is that this model has been unfairly imposed (with the support of the Chicago school) on electorates who didn't support it, and that it has failed.
DrunkenPoetic 2 weeks ago
@DrunkenPoetic mumbles ~ "She makes it very clear that she opposes any extreme ideology, whether it's communism or extreme laissez faire."
Who doesn't?
Would a 100% absolute operation of either philosophy be a realistic option, possible of choosing?
No.
Even the brilliant Milton Friedman wouldn't think of advocating an unchecked laissez faire economy.
3rd way thinking? Don't insult your intelligence.
Can you name an individual who would support an unadulterated version of either system?
No.
BustyerUniongoon 2 weeks ago
@jmus
Dude how do you not? First you start out with a knowledge of history. Then you lock your pens in a desk drawer so one can't stab themselves in the face during Klein's delusion. Naomi simply recited the vile history of Communism, only switching the term with Capitalism. She maliciously misquotes Friedman with blatant libel to implant a Stalin character in her fable.
Klein's end goal is to reinvent Capitalism's image with a revision of truth, reducing it the level of a new discussion.
BustyerUniongoon 2 weeks ago
Tantrum over?
What she seems to advocate in her books is third way thinking. A third way between capitalism and socialism.
She makes it very clear that she opposes any extreme ideology, whether it's communism or extreme laissez faire.
DrunkenPoetic 2 weeks ago
@DrunkenPoetic What is with you people? Is it ignorance, dishonesty, mental health? What do you think she's implying with the terms 'opposing ideas' and 'alternatives to Capitalism'? When speaking of The Debate/War of IDEAS with capitalism, what else would the opponent? Anarchy? If you "read a single word" of hers and not seen this obvious connotation, then you are ignorant of Marxist theory or have a mental illness.
Look up "Democratic Socialists" at Wiki. Klein = Notable Democratic Socialist.
BustyerUniongoon 2 weeks ago