Reason.tv at the Washington DC Tea Party
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@AbjectConformity The libertarianism you talk about is good to some extent, but beware that it doesn't get inhumane and segregates the people. I tend to lean more to the libertarian side, but the middle road between libertarianism and socialism isn't bad.
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god these people are stupid.
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@pamination I enjoy a reasoned discussion. I appreciate your input. Take care.
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@pamination competing who has the best country is pointless. There's no way to determine what constitutes what "the best" is. It's abstraction, and you have to realize that if you want to debate politics. For instance, my worldview involves everybody being responsible for their own lives, defending themselves, and having no pity for the weak and degenerate. A country that caters to the poor is one that I find morally and socially condemnable.
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@pamination So you believe in unconditional equality? That's admirable, but ultimately unrealistic. In the real world, people are naturally dominant to others'. It's all subjectivity anyway. A lot of kids born with silver spoons in their mouths end up riding freight trains and digging out of dumpsters with hobos. Poverty in the pocket is richness in experience.
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@pamination I went to public schools, a poor one in Baltimore. The curriculum was short-sighted, and incomplete to say the least. Parents, when planning for children, have quite some time to prepare for their kids education and to make a monetary investment in their child's future, and the schools will have more resources if it's privatized. This just goes back to the logic, "if you can't take care of 'em, then don't have 'em". Contraception is cheaper than college.
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@AbjectConformity Anyways I am done with this argument. It has been fun I wish we didn't have to have it over the internet though. I am glad you realize that even a (naive crazy liberal...w/e) has similar views to yourself and that instead of calling each other names and screaming that the other is trying to destroy the country we should instead have more dialogue and try to find more commonalities. Because after all we are just Americans right and we gotta live with each other like it or not...
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@pamination We can pay for it though. we just have to find the most efficient way how that doesn't hinder economic growth. Many countries have done it. And a history book won't help me because it is quite recent that northern european countries such as netherlands, norway, sweden, denmark, finland have been able to do this efficiently without hindering economic growth. They beat us on almost every standard from GDP per capita to infant mortality. Its wrong to say we can't learn from others ideas
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@AbjectConformity inherent rights meaning we were all born equal. It doesn't matter that certain people were born into "the lucky sperm club." The only difference between you and a starving kid in somalia is you were lucked into being born here. We are never going to be able to give equal opportunity for people to succeed or fail. But our goal should still be to give each person (in the world) not the USA should access to a decent education, health services, security, property protection etc.
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@AbjectConformity They contradict your socioeconomic level because would you have been able to afford a good private school if they are all privatized? would you and your family be ok if you arbitrarily got a heart condition and needed a heart transplant?
because sometimes making money contradicts giving better service to more people. police would just try to maximize their profits and therefore would only protect those who would pay them the most... somewhat like insurance companies do now
Government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem! Its WE THE PEOPLE, not Barack the king! Nobama!
CRSD60I 2 years ago 5
Obama's eating $100.00 a lbs steaks from Japan. What's own your plate. Ramen?
thatguyashe 2 years ago 3