Speer Gold Dot .40 S&W 165 gr JHP test with denim

Wet newspaper jug test for the .40 Speer Gold Dot, 165 grain. Test gun was a Glock 22. Four layers of denim used in the test, and that might have been a determining factor in the results.

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[tnoutdoors9]

November 2010 - I'm moving to SIM-TEST ballistic test media late 2010....this could be retested at some point.

[Ronald3570]

wich would you recommend for a glock 27, this round or the 180gr short barrel line by speer?

[tnoutdoors9]

@Ronald3570

I have never tested Speer's short barrel line, so I'm probably not the best resource for a good response.

[ildeliso]

an appropriate way to test the expansion of bullets is with ballistics gel. i think that maybe your test backstop may have been too light or not as dense as compared to flesh or meat. get some gel and test again. you will get far less penetration and more expansion. maybe around 13".

[tnoutdoors9]

@ildeliso

Agreed, gel is the way to go, but at $60 to $80 minimum per block, IF that calibrates, it's not a medium that I can crank out consistently. Which is why you don't see many gel tests videos. I was hoping to change that, but I can use gel only sparingly.

[Glockshooter09]

I agree with suave1906, there is no way this was the full power load. I have done test with the full power 165gr Gold Dot and it performed excellent. Please retest if you have time with the 53970. Thanks for the videos

[tnoutdoors9]

@Glockshooter09

On the list for a ballistic gel test at some point.....

[tnoutdoors9]

@bitcheznhos

Trust me, you really didn't. It's the local Nashville paper, which is the most anti-gun publication I've ever seen. It is best utilized for ballistic testing or wiping the lower orifice.

[axman1992jkw]

In your oppinion which on one would u suggest the 165 grain or the 180 grain speer gold dot for my 40 s&w?

[bradleywalters1]

@tnoutdoors9

A retest of this, then compared in the video against the 180gr, would be much appreciated.

I could send ammo if need be.

[devcon67]

Thanks for all the great reviews. Any chance this load will be retested with ballistic gel in the near future? Thanks...

[RockGIV]

I did a test similar to this with 135 gr. Double Tap ammo which by the way has about 570 foot pounds of energy rather than 490 out of a 4" barrel. I had about 14 inches of Very explosive penitration.

[jonboynumba1]

I would also like to request a sim-test retest on this...this is pretty much the .40 guys 124+p equivalent...I'd be very interested to see if it didn't do much better in the sim-test expansion wise and perhaps closer to the fbi data

[microminiskirt]

How does the short barrel ammo in .40 perform? Any difference using the standard ammo in .40 cal?

[Vicfangio]

@tnoutdoors9 Please do. This is a very popular LEO duty round for .40

[berettamod961]

Informal test indeed! Next time I feel that the wet newsprint is trying to do me harm I might reconsider the ammo choice. When I am serious about use against humans however I see no reason to swap this out. The premise of this test is nonsense. One stop shots would be nice however I live in the real world and the emphasis should be on accuracy with speed to place multiple well aimed shots in locations that will stop a would be attacker.

[Radion561]

@cubancripto He uses Sim-Test media now which is more like ballistic gel. This is a older test. I hope he will make another video on this bullet with the new media he now uses. 

[cubancripto]

garbage test