Chris Burden : Shoot, 1971

"Às 19:45 um amigo me deu um tiro no braço esquerdo. Era uma bala de cobre rifle longo, calibre 22. Ele estava a menos de 5 metros de distância".
Santa Ana, California, 19 de novembro de 1971.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• shoot
• chris burden
• performance
• tiro
• waldir barreto

[NascarNixon]

If this is art, then Jackass if the artiest show on TV.

[IStehSHIT]

@NascarNixon no

[wordreet]

A lot of people are missing a point that this performance was 40 years ago!! And anyway, people all around the world harm themselves in the name of religion, so why not art? Obviously this would be illegal in the majority of countries these days. Heh, so getting arrested could be part of the performance now!

[jbelcher74]

@Lottechoco I think what calumfinni is trying to say is that art is open to one's interpretation. I for one don't find this to be art but others may. To each their own. I just watched this because I guess it's the same fellow that created Metropolis II. Now that looks pretty cool. That I would consider art.

[Lottechoco]

@calumfinni you say no one can define art but then you decided that Burden is an artist. So apparently you can but other people don't know what art is? Art is not rocket science, it is not some great philosophy.

[Kindred1a1]

@Rephuze

While doing my research for this piece, i recall reading that Burden said later on that he was very short of money and wanted to do something to get some income at that time. After the performance, he went to see a psychiatrist as well. But in the end, the documentation will sell either way and burden's shoot was made, according to him, to denounce the Vietnam war

[Rephuze]

@Kindred1a1 ok, i thought some of these performance art was made as reaction against the business part of art, so they make performances because they can't be sold, only as a video documentation.. but even if that is so, it's rather big physical cost to shoot yourself just to make some money.. there must be easier ways of making money, if that is the main purpose..

[Kindred1a1]

@Rephuze

I dunno maybe getting a BFA made me more jaded. At the beginning i wouldve said that its all a form of art but the more I saw how art is nowadays and how much more of a business it has become, the more I became much more critical in accepting anything that claims itself to be art. People can get away with the most crazy things as long as they can market themselves and sell their product.

[Rephuze]

@Kindred1a1 alot of these artists are trying to push the limits of art, and maybe even trying to make "anti-art", on purpose, but somehow accepted by the art world anyway, because they perform it in a way that doesn't fit any other term (is this "political activity"? it doesn't directly interact with politics or being practical).. anyway, i don't like 90% of art, but i accept that it's art (or anti-art) and like to observe what artists do, even if i don't really like it..

[Kindred1a1]

@Rephuze

Its definitely hard to discuss since it isnt exact. But personally it needs more than craft and skill for sure. Metaphor, style, it should say something about the world it was made in. Picasso is an artist and if someone came and said "to me he isnt" that opinion is pretty much ignored (rightfully). What makes people like Picasso, Duchamp, etc immortalized is what art should be made of. What that is, Im not sure but i know a guy shooting himself is just ridiculous.

[Rephuze]

@Kindred1a1 hm, other people's opinion is useless too. Who should define an objective/absolute limit to art? like a science? it should be pure craft/skill that can be measured by a machine? ..somehow people understand the dilemma better when it's moved to music ..virtuosic musicians can be "entertaining", but boring after awhile.. it also kinda cross into the world of sport, like art is a show-off competition.. if artistic opinion is made "useless", "not valid"..