Jay Bell Jiu-jitsu: The Guard - Baseball bat choke off of guard pass

Darin Reisler, The owner of Plus One Defense Systems in West Hartford CT shows a sneaky choke that can catch your opponent by surprise when he passes your guard.

I've seen people go to sleep off this one in competition a few times.

Enjoy!

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[jbelljitsu]

every one is entitled to an opinion the key is to try and covey it without coming across as a douche:)

Train safe,

Jay

[derabb1t]

Gracie Barra Escondido guys will get the grips then let you pass to side mount, essentially choking yourself. Risky move, but, you can catch someone this way.

[givebeesachance]

@scbr

I've seen plenty of decent guys use this. The grip is different than a normal cross collar choke. The point is to make the grip deceptive. Besides you don't necessarily just give up your guard to go for the choke. You may find him passing your guard as you are working your grips and slip into this move at the last moment. It seems like obvious bait but a lot of things seem obvious until a clever person uses them at the right time.

[jashton100]

guys i assure you it works not only have been caught in it (by the guy showing it here )and yes i am a 4 stripe blue belt under renato tavares, but ive also caught a renato purple belt and multiple blue belts at different academies with it . It DOES work

[Ohnoplata12]

@scbr Don't get me wrong I 100% understand what your saying.But, hopefully as a teacher he isnt teaching moves that 100% don't work.Honestly your making yourself sound very arrogant as a teacher, there are probably 100 of techniques out there that may not be "basic bjj fundamentals" but they are around for a reason,because someone out there hasn't seen it, and will get caught in it. How many times have you seen top guys forget basic things during live matches?to each is own and everyone's human

[scbr]

@Ohnoplata12 What happens if you don't get the choke? Your guard is passed and you are in a bad position. Is it worth the risk? What about if it's a real fight? Besides, if you can get both hands in the collar like that then why not just do the regular lapel choke? Basic BJJ fundamentals are to not pass if your collar is being controlled. You get a strong posture first, then pass. Some of us just have higher standards when it comes to what and how we teach.

[Ohnoplata12]

Yeah Im not really seeing what your trying to say. There are many techniques where you give your opponent a position because your thinking 2-3 steps ahead of them and know what your trying to do. SO though I agree with most of what your saying, def seems like your trying look down on a technique.

[scbr]

@jbelljitsu I mean no disrespect. I'm just commenting on the technique and giving my opinion. It isn't personal. Nothing is set in stone in BJJ so it's OK to have different perspectives on things. Freely discussing things can only serve to improve your game. It makes you think about what you are doing and maybe you conclude you are doing things right or maybe you change what you are doing. But you always need to keep an open mind.

[scbr]

@kadbery89 I think you misunderstand what let means. Of course your guard may be passed due to the efforts of your opponent but why just let him pass? If a move depends upon your opponent being clueless then it isn't a move you can use as you, and your opponents, get better so why learn it? If you won't be using it on black belts when you (maybe) become a black belt then it isn't a good move. Always assume your opponent is as good, if not better, than you are.

[kadbery89]

@scbr yeah the "never let someone pass your guard" technique has always worked 100% of the time all the time, no one has ever passed my guard unless i let them because i am too hardcore for most BJJ guys, i train so hard and am at such an elite level that i don't ever practice base techniques because that is so for newbies. You are a plethora of knowledge SCBR and i hope you grace us with your insight more often, but other than that, id recommend to stop being a needledick. but thats just me.