RE: The Deen Show: The Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus isn't God Pt 2

Was the Trinity unknown untill the Coucil of Nicea 325?

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[RabinoBoricuaVirtual]

..Therefore, If the Jews, who had all of God's promises, ended up becoming Demons, can the rest of the world expect to fare any better? What solid hope can they have? So, you can see by yourself that your sincere desire to honor Jesus (by making Him God), ends up drawing a picture of God that's little more than a mockery; a sad caricature of God. Nobody wants to serve a God like that one, but rather One in whom we can rest upon; One who is not playing hide and seek, nor difficult to find. Peace

[MBI3030]

I am NOT making Him God. He existed with the Father, He is uncreated, Eternal and the Creator of all things. Even you my friend. Yes, Jesus created you and you deny Him the glory ONLY do to Him....

[RabinoBoricuaVirtual]

Shalom,

Regarding Jesus incarnation, the original Greek doesn't say "THE WORD" but, "THE LOGOS". This was a Greek concept. The Greeks believed that, before creating the universe, God made a thing called THE LOGOS. Simply put, it was the world of ideas, the realm of all perfect paradigms later used to create the tangible reality. John says Jesus is the LOGOS, a perfect paradigm; but, although different from the rest of creation, THE LOGOS was still just a creation of God, not God himself.

[MBI3030]

John used the greek term for a reason.

John does not say the Logos is part of creation but in fact the CREATOR, the Messiah and Savior.

You reject him becuase it has been prophized you will for a time, but God will open your eyes show enough.

maybe you need to read the New Testament.

[RabinoBoricuaVirtual]

There's a logical dead-end in believing Jesus is, literally, God: You see, If Jesus is God, and He couldn't convince the Jews, then God isn't almighty; if He is God, and the Jews killed Him, then God isn't immortal. What being (other than Satan) can be so evil as to defeat and kill God? Thus, the net result of God (Jesus) walking the earth was to make Gods chosen people (the Jews) a curse. So, God curses himself, as stated in: "I will curse him who curseth thee" Gen 12:3. Is God's logic crazy?

[MBI3030]

the problem is your presupposition. You are ASSUMING UNITARIANISM.

Jesus' ealy followerrs were ALL JEWISH.

Jeseus death on the cross was forseen. Jesus flesh died. Death does not mean cease to exist. READ the crucifixiton account.

Jesus walking upon the Earth was part of God's redemaptive plan.

Be honest?

[MBI3030]

Have you ever read the New Testament?

[KinsmenRedeemed]

I am convinced that muslims have a mental block that disallows them to be able to think as a rational human being.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[amirali1982]

Kashmirr brother, I am sorry but you are not reflecting Islam with your abusive attitude. Islam teaches us to respect everyone's believe and only present the truth.

I think you should apologize this guy and lets debate him with the facts and truth.

[TheArchangelos]

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[followerofjesus1984]

this guy is great, he doesn't even know anything our faith

saying there is no unique new way with jesus, when there is, he taught us to love God and love him, and yes there were martys for our fith like paul, steven and peter, they all had pasion for Christ and never withdrew from it. he ned to read acts for one

two, jesus didnt come to renew the law , he was it, he was new covenant