Ghamdi and Ahmadiyya Khilafat

As Ahmadies love to quote Ghamdi here he is exposing ahmadies belief of Khliafat.

So called khalifah who himself is living under the rule of Queen

Farhan00 has also made video related to this topic please watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rKEP9HSvyQ

please visit:

http://www.thecult.info/blog

and

http://www.thelastprophet.org

and

http://www.ahmedi.org

Category:

Education

Tags:

• ahmadiyya
• ghamdi
• ahmadi
• ahmedi
• akshaikh

[donshery]

Say whatever you want son, Ahmadiyya Islam is the truth, the right path, the one path Muhammad SAAW foretold the world about. This khilafat is the real khilafat, the promised khilafat. Do whatever you will, persucate us, kill us, you wont stop us, because Allah is with us. You are a shame, and may Allah guide you

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

Donshery where was this so called true Islam 120 years ago?

[makhan84]

iss ka matlab he k ghamdi sahib khulfa-e-rashdeen ko bhi nahi maante,,,

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

Just Read QURAN without the ahmadiyya glasses and u will understand it

instead of what Mullah Masroor read to u from paper

[donshery]

@donshery It is not my fault that you fail to understand the Holy Quran & the Ahadith. May Allah SWT guide you.

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

Really? did he went from Madian to makkah

did he do talibyah for Haj or mran?

was he a just ruler?

No No No

so think before u make some claim

[donshery]

@xiaahmad He fulfilled them, and you still cant see, because you dont want to see. The true teachings of Islam 120years ago were in the Quran & the Hadith - but the Muslims did not understand or neither follow them. But again, this is prophesied by Muhammad Mustafa SAAW, so i dont need to go in details.

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

I think you dont know the meaning of Obligatory and not optional dont u?

building big mosque is not a Sign :D

things that are mentioned as sign Mirza Ghulam dont fulfills that and ur talking about things that are not mentioned as sigsn

quite hilarious

[donshery]

@xiaahmad as i have mentioned time & time again; it is not forced upon, if someone dont want to pay, they dont have to. Paying at their own will, we do that, but we can see from all the 72 sects what progress they are making by "paying at their own will". In Norway there are about 2000Ahmadi Muslims. And we, Alhamdulillah, are finishing building the biggest Mosque in the Scandinavia. And there are hundreds of thousands of non-ahmadis. He fulfilled the signs.

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

so please answer why it has been obligatory why to help the world it needs to be forced upon ahmadies instead of they paying out of their own will???

plus which sign mirza fulfilled?

did he perform Haj? No

was he a just Ruler? No

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

the hadith no mahdi except ESA is consider Weak by Almost all scholars and mujadids. and it is clearly mentioned that Mahdi will lead ESA(AS) in prayer.

they are not like two president Mahdi is considered the leader of muslim and ESA(AS) return is for killing anti christ, correcting the belief about him.

why u cant answer the question properly

I asked why it is FORCED UPON PEOPLE WHY IT IS OBLIGATORY and not Optional?

[donshery]

@xiaahmad According to the Quran & the hadith; Jesus(as) of Nazareth is dead, like all the other Messengers of Allah swt. Mahdi & Messiah is the same person according to the hadith, given to different titles. Tell me, why would the Messiah & Mahdi come at the same time? would the mahdi come to just pray the namaz? please, be reasonable and think logical. If there are 2 presidents in the USA; of course it is going to be troubles.

To help the world is why we pay chanda, open your eyes

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

No like if one son lives long does not make him last son

same is the case here.

and according to Sahih Hadith and opinion of Mujadids Mahdi and Messiah are different.

you didnt answer donshery why it is obligatory upon ahmadies?

[donshery]

@xiaahmad i am over with the discussion of zakat & chanda. Mahdi & Messiah is the same, given to different titles. If you ever read the hadith & quran for yourself, you would know. Esa (as) is already a Prophet, but like every other Prophet, he is dead. And if he is to come back, like you claim, he would still be the Prophet, and then, according to you, he would be the last prophet. There is no logic in what you are saying. Ahmad(as) fullfilled the signs, that is why i believe in him. read quran

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

look if has been made obligatory on member of jammat how it is not forcing?

or ur saying it is not even obligatory?

firstly mahdi and messiah are different.

Secondly ESA(AS) already a Prophet

thirdly Mirza Ghulam dont even fulfill any sign of messiah or Mahdi which are directly related to them.

so please stop the blind following

[donshery]

@xiaahmad i am denying because that is the truth. You say it is forced upon people, which it is not, it is obligatory in that sense that if you have it, give it. If you dont want to give, you can talk to the jamat and fix it. easy as that. No prophet after SAAW? is that why you are still waiting ofr a messiah/mahdi? and if you think he is not a prophet, then you are sorely mistaken. then it is no POINT for allah to send him. is that why the quran & hadith deny that SAAW is the last prophet?

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

No i read references from ur own books and website

its ur website which says some Chandas are obligatory why are u in denial? and if it is so good why forced it upon people? why it is not according to their own wishes

if you real had search you wouldnt have believe in a Prophet AFTER prophet Muhammad (PUBH)

and you wouldnt have consider him mahdi of messiah (when he fails in each and every sign directly related to mahdi or Messiah)

so please learn and think before it gets too late

[donshery]

@xiaahmad Ahmadiyya Muslims hold no fake beliefs. It is your misunderstanding, and i feel sorry for you, you read anti ahmadiyya stuff all day, yet, there is nothing coming out; as almost everything is a lie. Ahmadiyya Muslims pay zakat & chanda. It is not zakat, but it is just as zakat - why do we pay? to spread the truth. And i have researched alot on Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) & Ahmadiyya, if and trust me, i didnt find anything but truth. I know Quran & sunnah, may Allah learn it to you ameen.

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

so like these other fake beliefs ahmadiyyah is also another fake belief using the name of other religion.

so like they are spreading even if ahmadies spread that does not prove them truthful.

and you again ignored the question where 6.25% is mentioned ? why it is Obligatory and not option (and please learn that chanda is not zakat)

so thats why I said please stop blindly following Mirza Ghulam and his sons they are just using you for their own fake claims.

Learn QURAN and Sunnah

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

wat is spreading now in name of Christianity is original?NO

same way ahmadiyyas are using the name of Islam

same goes for other religions even if atheism is not a religion still it is spreading does that mean its from GOD?

or Bahai faith? or Wiccans, or Mormons? I think u cant see beyond Pakistan :)

QURAN it self says that religion was perfected 1400 years ago then how can U claim that religion can evolve? so please stop the blind following of Mirza & son and learn Islam the Truth

[donshery]

@xiaahmad ok smartass, christianity in its original form, without shirk, and some other things - is made by Allah. Atheism is not a religion, and i have seen & accepted the truth. You say that before judaism every person was directly hell-bound. That is nonsense, if someone accepts that, he has to accept that Allah is very unjust. That is not true, to believe in Allah, you have to believe in the theory of religious evolution. Please, see the truth.

[xiaahmad]

@donshery

but what is spreading of christianity is not by him

what is spearding of atheism is not by him

what is spreading of Mormonism is not by him

so its you who need to see the truth.

Yes Islam was perfect 1400 years ago not 120 years ago :)

[donshery]

@xiaahmad please read the Quran, you badly need it, you are SO misguided that i feel sorry for you.

Allah clearly states in the Quran that ALL religions are from Him. That means; in its original form, all religions are truthful; hinduism, buddhism, taoism, christianity, judaism etc. If you notice you will see each religion is more advanced than the other; the evolution of religion, at last Allah decided to perfect this; Islam. Again, if you dont want to pay, you dont have to

[xiaahmad]

@donshery Donshery christians are increasing does that mean they are truthful.

according to ur own jammat 120 million left ahmadiyyat.

plus why it is forced upon people now dont tell me that Obligatory does not mean forced upon. :)