That beautiful, distinctive sound of my favourite bus with that engine....many memories of riding the 253 (Holloway HT's allocation of Leyland RMs) from Stamford Hill to Warren Street and the back towards Aldgate. I would wait around at stamford Hill for a leyland to show up in either direction then cross the road to hop on the back> my favorite seat is in the video above. Loved the AEC engined ones too but the Leyland 0600 sound stole my heart forever....
Around £20K was spent on each of these rebuilding them to a very high standard. Then there was the U turn and all the Routemasters in London except the heritage routes were retired. Around 600 powertrains were on the point of being ordered to convert all London's Routemasters, which I am sure would have been more preferable to Londoner's and tourists than the new off the peg buses they have now. I have been on 2 preserved 'Dartmasters'. I was very impressed with their performance and comfort.
I agree with you that the sounds of the original Wilson (SCG) gearboxes were a main part of the Routemaster's character. However the casings of these had become porous and there were bad oil leaks from them. Faced with keeping around 600 Routemasters in frontline service, it was necessary to find an alternative, hence the 'Dartmasters' with the Cummins B series engine and Allison gearbox as used in the dennis Dart. Livingston & TfL bought back 50 RMs from around the UK and refurbished them.
now this is a proppr rm rather than those REFURBISHED ones in london with the Dennis engine. My aunt used to drive the No. 19 bus in London and fell in love with these RM's and seems to have passed it down to me. We both love it when it is idling
There were definitely routemaster built with Leyland Engines fitted new including Northern General RMFs. The prototype RMF (RMF 1254) had AEC fitted but when it was later sold to NGT they replaced it with a Leyland unit to match the 50 strength fleet that they had by then acquired.
Routemasters were all automatic gearboxed; you could change the selector manually if required. The original lump in them was AEC, as it was AEC Southall who built them.
if my memory serves me right, they were sold originally with AEC engines, with the leyland as an option when AEC were purchased by Leyland. The Iveco & Cummins units were put in when the buses were refurbed my Marshall
That beautiful, distinctive sound of my favourite bus with that engine....many memories of riding the 253 (Holloway HT's allocation of Leyland RMs) from Stamford Hill to Warren Street and the back towards Aldgate. I would wait around at stamford Hill for a leyland to show up in either direction then cross the road to hop on the back> my favorite seat is in the video above. Loved the AEC engined ones too but the Leyland 0600 sound stole my heart forever....
Fuckoffucuntisback 5 months ago 2
Yes, just listen to that gear change beween 0:14 and 0:18. Just as I remember it as a lad in the 70s. The refurbished ones never had any character...
NoraCollins 2 years ago 2
Around £20K was spent on each of these rebuilding them to a very high standard. Then there was the U turn and all the Routemasters in London except the heritage routes were retired. Around 600 powertrains were on the point of being ordered to convert all London's Routemasters, which I am sure would have been more preferable to Londoner's and tourists than the new off the peg buses they have now. I have been on 2 preserved 'Dartmasters'. I was very impressed with their performance and comfort.
HORNEBEEDUBLO 2 years ago
I agree with you that the sounds of the original Wilson (SCG) gearboxes were a main part of the Routemaster's character. However the casings of these had become porous and there were bad oil leaks from them. Faced with keeping around 600 Routemasters in frontline service, it was necessary to find an alternative, hence the 'Dartmasters' with the Cummins B series engine and Allison gearbox as used in the dennis Dart. Livingston & TfL bought back 50 RMs from around the UK and refurbished them.
HORNEBEEDUBLO 2 years ago
now this is a proppr rm rather than those REFURBISHED ones in london with the Dennis engine. My aunt used to drive the No. 19 bus in London and fell in love with these RM's and seems to have passed it down to me. We both love it when it is idling
scorpia12345 2 years ago
There were definitely routemaster built with Leyland Engines fitted new including Northern General RMFs. The prototype RMF (RMF 1254) had AEC fitted but when it was later sold to NGT they replaced it with a Leyland unit to match the 50 strength fleet that they had by then acquired.
pielight 3 years ago
Routemasters were all automatic gearboxed; you could change the selector manually if required. The original lump in them was AEC, as it was AEC Southall who built them.
radioianj 3 years ago
Don't know about when originally built, I know the reconditioned ones did, along with fully auto gearbox instead of the pre-select.
glenrea 3 years ago
Did the routemaster have P.A.S. then?
Robbie2612 3 years ago
if my memory serves me right, they were sold originally with AEC engines, with the leyland as an option when AEC were purchased by Leyland. The Iveco & Cummins units were put in when the buses were refurbed my Marshall
glenrea 3 years ago