RE: European vs American Atheists

Another response to more of TheAtheistAntidote's amazingly prosaic, utterly empty and borrowed (not so much plagiarized now that he cites his sources) rhetoric.

I do ask myself why I do this sometimes (respond to people like Brock Lawley), and the answer is always "because it is necessary".

TheAtheistAntidote's wonderful video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyZtGG4nsi8

His channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAtheistAntidote

Last and more importantly, the other atheists that I mentioned:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bewarethelizards42
http://www.youtube.com/user/ZOMGitsCriss
http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t
http://www.youtube.com/user/dprjoneslives

And I know there are more European brothers and sister atheists that I didn't mention, but be assured, I enjoy watching every single one of you here on YouTube.

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[amathais]

First, I like your headset. I'm on my third of them, the only thing I don't like is that the wiring where it plugs into the USB adaptor fails after a few months.

Second, I think brock was talking about the large amount of atheists that give the following argument for why christianity is silly:

1) Kittens die

2) An infinitely good God would not kill kittens

3) The Christian god is infinitely good

4) The Christian god is false

And there are a lot of atheists that think this is valid.

[SoCalAtheist]

I've had the headset for more than a year now, though I don't use the USB adapter.

[jeffsandychelsea]

@amathais Well, it either means that the book isn't true and god actually isn't all good or the god doesn't exist. Which is it?

[AtheistBrit]

That's exactly what I was trying to say but didn't do too well! :) He/she still hasn't answered the questions posed, so I can only assume there's no valid answer or he/she's still trying to think up excuses for their false god.

[mattyabsley]

"The problem is that you're defining good by pleasure and evil by pain" - No he wasn't at all. Take the pain out of the question put to you and you still have a child that won't be allowed a life and will spend the little of the time he or she has in fear. You not only fill a child with fear but destroy the lives of the family. Your delusion causes much insult to the intelligence of people enduring this shit. Especially when you have no valid reason to believe half the shit you spout.

[AtheistBrit]

LOL do you think amathais is even listening to us?! :) As far as I can tell amathais, you're dodging the question and ignoring other comments that help to disprove your god. "The planet works exactly as it would without a god" - precisely. The world is full of preventable suffering, and we don't see a god intervening to prevent it (yet he could, apparently, as he's all-powerful). The universe looks and behaves exactly as if there were no god... so there almost certainly isn't one!

[amathais]

Thank you, Woflwing1, you're doing a good job of showing SoCalAtheist (and anyone who reads this) what Brock was talking about.

[wolfwing1]

Pain isn't the definition of evil, definition of evil is needless suffering, you go to the dentist and had a cavity filled that would hurt, if you went to a dentists and he refused to help you even though he could that would be immoral and unethical. Children dying of cancer is wrong, and a god that lets that happen but doesn't stop it or ever help any isn't a good god to follow. Thats ignoring why cancer or any diseases that kill children be there in the first place.

[amathais]

I cannot think of a circumstance in which a child getting cancer & dying is tasteful, however, from a moral perspective, this begs the question as to what a good thing is.

Consider; when I go to the dentist to get a tooth drilled, I also get pain but I feel that the procedure is a good or else I wouldn't do it - is the pain from drilling considered evil?  I think it is possible that the example you give could be good in some similar manner that I don't have the experience or mind to understand

[wolfwing1]

Heh they love to dodge questions. Heh If we can't judge god based on his own standards then what can we? Christians like to point what justification do atheists have for saying murder is wrong and such, and yet Christians will argue up and down that when god does it/says it it's moral or at least just.

[wolfwing1]

Thing is that is the definition of good, even by bibles standards, good is not causing harm, or causing death, good is relieving it and helping others, evil is hurting or killing others, causing pain, or sitting idly while someone is hurt, yet these fit your god if the bible is true and he exists.

[wolfwing1]

those areguments are quiet valid within the context of the god most Christians potray, one that wants us to worship and love him, that cares about every living thing on the planet, and so on yet makes no effort to even do the least bit to help the planet. The planet works exatly as it would without a god. A dietistic uncaring god that can't be disproven from that argument. BUt a god that supposdly wants everyones attention but loves to hide doesn't fit your god.