Wrestling Roundtable #26 3/15/09 Part 2 - Best/Worst of WrestleManias
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Bret Hart vs Owen Hart is the best match of all time.
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I'm glad you confronted the atrocity that was: Goldberg v Lesnar, especially right out the gate... the promotion for it was very good: cross-brand titans who at the time were considered the equivalent of each other cheating each other out of titles/title matches, sounds like a main event right there! falls COMPLETELY flat on its face! and their exits were a stunner by Austin (and I don't even remember if he had a reason to stunner Goldberg)
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The best overall WMs with at-least 4 or more great matches on the card are: 10, 17, 19 & 20
The best WMs with a great main-event and/or a great stand-out match are: 3, 5, 6, 8, 12, 13, 16, 18, 21
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@WrestlingRoundtable True. WM14 was all about the christening of the Attitude Era and the whole card just exemplified the Attitude Era and was a stark contrast to WM 13 just a year before.
Austin/Michaels wasn't spectacular for reasons which you mentioned but it wasn't terrible, it had it's moments and accomplished what it needed to.
Taker/Kane I loved as a kid because of the build-up and even now I think it was a pretty solid match with some great spots. Kane looked amazingly agile back here.
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@WrestlingRoundtable The should've had the same sort of match Goldberg and Scott Steiner had at WCW Fall Brawl 2000. They hit eachother with a whole bunch of awesome suplex variations and generally just went really hard and stiff in a back and fourth brawl with a few decent weapon spots thrown in the mix.
In the Goldberg/Lesnar match it was just your typical big-man, staredown, move for move, hold for hold match, it was like they were trying to repeat Hogan/Warrior.
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@BrandonTheBeast83 Sure WM 6 had a great line-up of talent from the 80s but the matches were all hastily thrown together, barely went past 5 minutes with 14 matches on the card and mostly ended in DQ or count-out. Jake Roberts vs Ted DiBiase was the 2nd biggest match-up on the card and was a dull match that ended by count-out at the 8 min mark.
It's a pity L.O.D didn't debut until June of that year, they could've faced the Hart Foundation in the 2nd face vs face match on the card.
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Some of the earlier WM's had great main-events ( 5, 6, 12) or one stand-out match ( 3, 8, 11, 13,) and painfully average undercards. All the big names of the day were on the card but in seemingly random matches that didn't deliver.
The undercards of WM 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 were mostly worthless matches thrown together at the last minute and the focus was either on the WWF title match or another specialty match on the card like Austin/Bret Hart at WM 13.
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@WrestlingRoundtable Yeah Jericho vs HHH was an afterthought following the Rock/Hogan match.
Undertaker vs Ric Flair was the best match on the card in my opinion and a match that surpassed expectations. This was Flair's best match in a long time and Taker was at his absolute best doing the Big Evil persona and gave Flair a beating. That Superplex off the top rope by Taker on Flair is probably the highest and most impactful superplex I've ever seen and you knew Flair was in pain after it.
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Better times, these were....
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@WrestlingRoundtable I totally agree, it still blows my mind and I may be a "WWE apologist" but give me a break Hogan vs. Rock should gone last even Jericho admitted that and seeing those two walk away perfect ending to a Wrestlemania. Funny thing, about Warrior vs. Hogan I think it was the first time in my watching wrestling. I didn't want to see either get submit or get pinned. Same thing with Undertaker vs. HBK Wrestlemania XXVI.



The Bret vs Owen match is fantastic, just watching it now actually. However, I have noticed a minor issue with it. Bret actually taps out to the sharpshooter, but the referee ignores it.
SPJay100 1 year ago
@SPJay100 That's because tapping out didn't exist in wrestling yet. It wasn't until Ken Shamrock came to the WWF in 1997 that tapping out was introduced as a signal of submission. Until then, it was 'verbal', so you'd often not know someone submitted until the ref. rang the bell.
-E, Wrestling Roundtable
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