Re: Definition of Atheism

Video Response to Shadow9392's video "The Definition of Atheism"

Category:

Education

Tags:

• atheism
• definition
• shadow9392
• genetic
• fallacy
• positive
• negative

[LogicalStatements1]

you try to exchange belief with claim lol, nice try mate but plurb plarb blurb balalalalla

[derfos666]

@LogicalStatements1 As far as I understand it a belief is a proposition in the form of "this is the case." Claims are statements of belief. I'm not sure which of these moves you don't like, but I think I can justify both.

I would also like to know which words you think I leave undefined, that way I can add an explanation as notes to the video.

[ybra]

Most atheists i have come across do not have a positive belief that there is no god, if they are making any claim it is simply that theists have not yet meet the burden of proof.

The same way you do not need to prove that unicorns do not exist to not have a belief in them, why should we need to prove that god does not exist to not believe in him. No you are the one making the claim that god exists and if you want to convince us you will have to prove that your position is actually true.

[derfos666]

@ybra you clearly have a different experience with atheists than I do. I attended a few meetings of the Atheists Students Association in my University and the split between strong and weak atheism is pretty much 50-50.

I have also found that a lot of weak atheists say something like "I can't know for sure, but odds are there is no god." That's a positive belief as well...

[ParasiteS27]

This is just Word Play.

The Bottom line is that an Athiest is simply someone that has yet to be convinced of a God.

"An Athiest is just a Christian That believes in 1 less god"

[DrDisErect]

well you're the most mistaken person I've seen in a while..

[DrDisErect]

He's not called "Shadow9392" He's called "Obviously Jesus"

[ZZzzzzzWhat]

@resistnzisfutl i agree 100%

[resistnzisfutl]

I think philisophically nearly all atheists assert their atheism in response to theistic claims. Theists made the initial claim and atheists label themselves such in response. You'd be right with the burden of proof if atheists made the initial claim, but in reality there would be no concept of god(s) if theists didn't make the claim first; there wouldn't be theists or atheists, just an absence of theistic concepts one way or another.

[resistnzisfutl]

You're confusing atheism with agnosticism; atheism is a belief, whereas agnosticism is a claim to knowledge. An agnostic atheist doesn't believe in a god, but admits there's no way to be 100% certain. A gnostic atheist asserts there is no god for certain, hence they don't believe.

The burden of proof is always on the claimant. If someone claims a god, it's not up to me to disprove their claim. Atheism is simply an absence of belief in a supernatural god, not a claim.

[PersonWhoEatsPumkins]

@derfos666 Your an absolute douche,nuff said