@rugbyguy59 really good scientists try to control all the variables. AGW pseudo-scientists are famous for stupidity...like where they predicted drought in australia but somehow forgot la nina. lolol.
ok, so ur saying that the heat 'trapped' (co2 doesn't 'trap' anything) by human co2 will single out a rice farm in the phillipines & kill it's crop...but everywhere else on the planet will be okay. go for it!! i guess this is what passes for science in your whacky world. lmao.
@badvagirl "uess what, an earthquake will reduce yields too"
Yes it would. Do you think that proves warming doesn't effect rice crops?
"a silly 6 year study of 227 farms"
So you must also reject findings that CO2 makes plants grow more as those studies are also done on that scale or smaller. Now if you reject one but not the other you'll be cherry picking. If you accept both, even with caveats, you'd be honest. If you reject both you'd be stupid. What's it going to be?
Couldn't have because I never said overall production was down. (or yield over 30 years)
The International Rice Institute agrees with me. Are you calling them liars? You said they were an authority when you introduced them to the debate.
Conjecture is "An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information" If you want to make decisions without the studies on the topic we're debating I'd say you're making the conjecture
@badvagirl "of all the 100s of variables affecting the growing of rice, it's amazing that you guys can say, "see...THAT rice farm had a bad harvest cuz of a 3% trace gas. but that other farm had an increase in production cuz the trace gas hasn't affected it yet...and this is evidence of AGW"
a) It's not evidence of AGW. That's another thing
b) It isn't the trace gas effecting it, it's the heat trapped by the trace gas
c) Yes it is amazing. Controlling for variables, what scientists do
@badvagirl "phillipines dept of agriculture says rice production has tripled since 1960 & was only slowed in 2009 by a typhoon. i'll go with them. & the FAO"
So will I. It's accurate. Now back to the question at hand, does rising temps have an effect on rice yields. The facts on that question say yes.
@badvagirl "the numbers i gave are from the FAO of the UN"
What? You're quoting numbers from the UN? The corrupt, anti-American, seeking world government UN? Are you sure this isn't a hoax to get you to pay a rice tax?
"comes to the conclusion that yield & production has been down for 25 years"
Doesn't actually come to that conclusion. It concludes that without the end of century warming yields would have been higher and in the future this will likely become more and more negative.
@PrairleDogged "Your'e sore because CO2 has a benevolent side"
Really? I kind of like the greenhouse effect. It keeps the planet livable. I'm a big fan of the carbon cycle, it provides food and makes the world a damned nice place to be. I've no problem accepting that adding CO2 will increase growth. But we know that has limits. The dose makes the poison. Too much of a good thing. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it wrong
@rugbyguy59 you don't like the UN's FAO...try the phillipine dept of agriculture. or the US dept of ag.
i don't deal in conjecture, i deal in reality. you deal in conjecture because you HAVE TO. you have nothing else.
badvagirl 56 seconds ago
@rugbyguy59 really good scientists try to control all the variables. AGW pseudo-scientists are famous for stupidity...like where they predicted drought in australia but somehow forgot la nina. lolol.
ok, so ur saying that the heat 'trapped' (co2 doesn't 'trap' anything) by human co2 will single out a rice farm in the phillipines & kill it's crop...but everywhere else on the planet will be okay. go for it!! i guess this is what passes for science in your whacky world. lmao.
badvagirl 3 minutes ago
watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw - Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition
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PrairleDogged 4 hours ago
@badvagirl "uess what, an earthquake will reduce yields too"
Yes it would. Do you think that proves warming doesn't effect rice crops?
"a silly 6 year study of 227 farms"
So you must also reject findings that CO2 makes plants grow more as those studies are also done on that scale or smaller. Now if you reject one but not the other you'll be cherry picking. If you accept both, even with caveats, you'd be honest. If you reject both you'd be stupid. What's it going to be?
rugbyguy59 6 hours ago
@badvagirl "so you lied about them being down"
Couldn't have because I never said overall production was down. (or yield over 30 years)
The International Rice Institute agrees with me. Are you calling them liars? You said they were an authority when you introduced them to the debate.
Conjecture is "An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information" If you want to make decisions without the studies on the topic we're debating I'd say you're making the conjecture
rugbyguy59 6 hours ago
@badvagirl "of all the 100s of variables affecting the growing of rice, it's amazing that you guys can say, "see...THAT rice farm had a bad harvest cuz of a 3% trace gas. but that other farm had an increase in production cuz the trace gas hasn't affected it yet...and this is evidence of AGW"
a) It's not evidence of AGW. That's another thing
b) It isn't the trace gas effecting it, it's the heat trapped by the trace gas
c) Yes it is amazing. Controlling for variables, what scientists do
rugbyguy59 6 hours ago
@badvagirl "phillipines dept of agriculture says rice production has tripled since 1960 & was only slowed in 2009 by a typhoon. i'll go with them. & the FAO"
So will I. It's accurate. Now back to the question at hand, does rising temps have an effect on rice yields. The facts on that question say yes.
rugbyguy59 6 hours ago
@badvagirl "the numbers i gave are from the FAO of the UN"
What? You're quoting numbers from the UN? The corrupt, anti-American, seeking world government UN? Are you sure this isn't a hoax to get you to pay a rice tax?
"comes to the conclusion that yield & production has been down for 25 years"
Doesn't actually come to that conclusion. It concludes that without the end of century warming yields would have been higher and in the future this will likely become more and more negative.
rugbyguy59 7 hours ago
@badvagirl Yes lets see what we've got here:
1) a study (one of several) that studies the specific question, or
2) years of numbers that don't actually examine the topic in question and go way back in time, well before the topic being studied was an issue.
Real scientists go for the study that controls for the variable in question. So the study(ies) would be the one(s).
rugbyguy59 7 hours ago
@PrairleDogged "Your'e sore because CO2 has a benevolent side"
Really? I kind of like the greenhouse effect. It keeps the planet livable. I'm a big fan of the carbon cycle, it provides food and makes the world a damned nice place to be. I've no problem accepting that adding CO2 will increase growth. But we know that has limits. The dose makes the poison. Too much of a good thing. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it wrong
You're sore because CO2 isn't just benevolent.
rugbyguy59 7 hours ago