Socrates, Moral Hit Man
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Although I have never read any of Socrates' works, this video is quite revealing.
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Respond to this video... stefan, I think you have a misperception of a typical american soldier. most soliers volunteer to be owned by the military out of guilt - they want to "protect their families" and make sure their friends and neighbors dont have to go in their place
is the military industrial complex corrupt? of course. but to lay the blame at people who choose to kill because they believe that is the only choice to protect their loved ones doesnt make them paid mercenaries
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@psusac have you heard of raping the land? rape isnt just sexual conquest - it's monetary, occupational, etc etc
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hmm........ I never knew Socrates was a totalitarian nazi. thanks for the tip (I fel no pity that he poisoned himself now)
I think ur not giving plato enough credit . he was actually morally opposed to slavery in his time. in The Republic, he said the master was prisoner to the slaves, because at a moments notice they could and would slit his throat without a thought and take his property (including their own personhood)
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Quote by Socrates: No matter how corrupt the government, every citizen's life is rooted in the community.
True or false? Please explain your reasoning.
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Okay, that's a fair reply. Objectively I can't say you're wrong on any of your points.
However, I did find it kind of amusing that someone would take a rant against the most esteemed (possibly undeserved, but that's the question) philosopher in human history as "revealing" without ever having studies any of the philosopher's work or even other people's opinions on that philosopher.
Gaining any new perspective is revealing, but if the ONLY perspective one gains is a criticism...
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Stefan argues from first principles and he makes many stunning psychological and philosophical insights, which really have the power to improve a person's life.
At the same time, his arguments from first principles often gives short shrift to biology. We -- unfortunately -- live in an aggressive, violent world (Heinlein got this right).
Even EATING is violent, the immune system is violent, and so is swatting a fly.
I'm glad we're loving, social, warm-blooded MAMMALS... in this harsh world.
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@ChristophDollis Are you actually arguing about what is revealing to me? Maybe you're arguing there is an objective criteria for what is revealing? How do you know how many opinions I have to choose from? I'm more so amused you bothered to type your comment. lol
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You say you're an empiricist, but you miss the fact we are apes.
Aggressive, warlike & often warm social primates.
In what community of any size is the person-to-person homicide rate 0?
Violence isn't caused by the state, although the state can acerbate it. Often the state is an attempt to limit violence upon its community members, by defending its community against others who would conquer/destroy/enslave it ... and by ensuring criminals who prey on the weak and vulnerable are locked up.
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No it isn't. It's one guy's opinion on someone whose work you've made no effort to understand.
It MIGHT be "revealing" if you had a few different opinions to choose from after thinking about it... but as it is?
No.
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I have waited wanting to hear TRUTH. Having heard, I sovereignly swear, NEVER to KILL for a LIE.
Majenius 3 years ago 7
That is a very powerful commitment - congratulations, and thank you for sharing it! :)
stefbot 3 years ago
We are a tribal species that is living in a world that has evolved WAY beyond the evolutionary equipment we have been born with to work out moral problems. I think this is all the explanation you need for the "scar tissue" you seem to dwell on. You seem to bring up rape alot. Have you ever considered counseling (not a wise crack - you seem really wounded to me).
Anyway, a very intelligent rant. I can't say I agree with most of it, but you have some good ideas in there.
psusac 3 years ago
Rape is the least ambiguous moral crime, since is not muddied by self-defense. According to your observations, then, I have not been to counseling, is that right?
stefbot 3 years ago
I'm sure that I wouldn't know if you have been to counseling or not. I'm just saying you seem a little emotionally raw to me.
psusac 3 years ago
Right, I see. I am not saving my passion and outrage for some more important topic... :)
stefbot 3 years ago