@pearcemark2 I know what you mean, and until Joe beat Lacy I never had any interest in him whatsoever. Prior to that win I had never seen him box, but I was amazed by how good he was against Lacy, and it did dawn on me in 2006 after he won the IBF that he was unbeaton in his career and had defended the WBO for 9 years straight - albeit not against the best.
After bearing Eubank, there was nothing wrong with Joe fighting Reid, Woodhall and Mitchell, but he needed a couple of big names also.
@opera123able My issue with Joe is that I can't pretend a guy who spent 2 years on the world level in a shallow division is in the same league as guys who are able to reign on top for 10 years and hold wins over other prime legendary fighters.
Like Lacy, he was hyped, but is he legendary? Nowhere near. Kessler is a tough solid fighter. Legendary? Maybe if you're a Dane.
Joe had a great career, but it's on the tier below the very top level where the truly exceptional exist.
@pearcemark2 I think Joe's victory over Kessler is the key one really, no one can criticise a man who unifies WBC, WBA, WBO IBF and Ring Magazine againt an unbeaton Kessler who was at his absolute peak. Joe was brave to take on Kessler and I think Joe was brave to go over to the US to fight B-Hop.
I just wish he had been having those fights 5 years earlier - you'll have to ask Joe why those types of fights didn't happen before. Maybe he is a coward, but I dont personally beleive he was.
@pearcemark2 I agree its disapointing that Joe didn't fight B-Hop and James Toney in the late 90's or early 00's.
I really cant comment on why those fights never happened as I thought Joe Calzaghe was a second rate champ back in those days and didn't follow his career at all. I admit I only started respecting Joe after he destroyed Lacy and ripped the IBF title from him.
@pearcemark2 I still think Joe's victory against 31 year old Eubank deserves respect. Joe was only 25 but had fought no decent names, so to beat Chris Eubank by such a wide margin deserves some credit.
31 is not old at all considering what Joe himself was doing at 36 and the level B-Hop has remained at in his 40's, let alone his 30's.
@pearcemark2 Amazing-we nearly agreed on somthing! - I do respect Tyson 1985 - 1991, but I genuinely beleive he would always struggle against Prime Lewis and Prime Holyfield, because they were simply better than anyone else Tyson fought in his own prime. Tony Tucker foguht Tyson in 1987 at Tyson's boiling point zenith, and Tucker went the distance, competed well and hurt Tyson -yet Tucker had a broken right hand, little prep time and a coke habit
Still not as dumb as CECIL PEOPLES!!!
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CECIL PEOPLES... WORST JUDGE OF ALL TIME.
NoJiggaboo 4 days ago
Shit,mierda,shit,mierda,coño metí la pata.
asereestoypelao 2 weeks ago
Yeah. shit.
MrNiconiconico 2 weeks ago
Lol this dude is drunk
asereestoypelao 2 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 I know what you mean, and until Joe beat Lacy I never had any interest in him whatsoever. Prior to that win I had never seen him box, but I was amazed by how good he was against Lacy, and it did dawn on me in 2006 after he won the IBF that he was unbeaton in his career and had defended the WBO for 9 years straight - albeit not against the best.
After bearing Eubank, there was nothing wrong with Joe fighting Reid, Woodhall and Mitchell, but he needed a couple of big names also.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@opera123able My issue with Joe is that I can't pretend a guy who spent 2 years on the world level in a shallow division is in the same league as guys who are able to reign on top for 10 years and hold wins over other prime legendary fighters.
Like Lacy, he was hyped, but is he legendary? Nowhere near. Kessler is a tough solid fighter. Legendary? Maybe if you're a Dane.
Joe had a great career, but it's on the tier below the very top level where the truly exceptional exist.
pearcemark2 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 I think Joe's victory over Kessler is the key one really, no one can criticise a man who unifies WBC, WBA, WBO IBF and Ring Magazine againt an unbeaton Kessler who was at his absolute peak. Joe was brave to take on Kessler and I think Joe was brave to go over to the US to fight B-Hop.
I just wish he had been having those fights 5 years earlier - you'll have to ask Joe why those types of fights didn't happen before. Maybe he is a coward, but I dont personally beleive he was.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 I agree its disapointing that Joe didn't fight B-Hop and James Toney in the late 90's or early 00's.
I really cant comment on why those fights never happened as I thought Joe Calzaghe was a second rate champ back in those days and didn't follow his career at all. I admit I only started respecting Joe after he destroyed Lacy and ripped the IBF title from him.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 I still think Joe's victory against 31 year old Eubank deserves respect. Joe was only 25 but had fought no decent names, so to beat Chris Eubank by such a wide margin deserves some credit.
31 is not old at all considering what Joe himself was doing at 36 and the level B-Hop has remained at in his 40's, let alone his 30's.
opera123able 3 weeks ago
@pearcemark2 Amazing-we nearly agreed on somthing! - I do respect Tyson 1985 - 1991, but I genuinely beleive he would always struggle against Prime Lewis and Prime Holyfield, because they were simply better than anyone else Tyson fought in his own prime. Tony Tucker foguht Tyson in 1987 at Tyson's boiling point zenith, and Tucker went the distance, competed well and hurt Tyson -yet Tucker had a broken right hand, little prep time and a coke habit
Prime Lewis would have thus beaton Tyson in 1987
opera123able 3 weeks ago