@patcuvie excuse me???? did u just say that elephants r KILLERS?! IF U WERE THAT WOULD U JUST GO WITH BEING WHIPPED?! no right? u should have a healthy life instead of dying.@circusboy90210 that`s NOT what the planet needs.What is DOES need is appreciation 4 our animals,their 1 of the things that embrace nature.Imagine a life without them:no little buddies as pets,nothing else 2 love but humans.
@circusboy - You're still refusing to give details of what Ringling would consider behavior cruel enough to "fire a person on the spot." Hitting elephants across the face with bullhooks and whips does not "tickle" them. IT HURTS THEM, which is why Ringling does it: to instill fear in the elephants, so they can control them. You don't instill fear through tickling. The Elephants are "Killers" and yet Ringling tickles them to instill respect? You really don't know how ridiculous you sound, do you?
@patcuvie I"m not behind ringling I'm behind family's that have been doing the same thing for century's in a status quo that is what the planet needs'.. I've seen people literaly thrown off of the train for doing dumb shit to animals. not always aware why , I was on the concourse most of the time and got back to the train to see they were fired, shitcanned 86'ed. however you keep ignoring that what would hurt you only tickles these wild beast's and it's all they respect. they are killers.
@circusboy90210 - I would love to have a job at Ringling. Unfortunately, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, they would never hire me, as they would know I would document and reveal what I saw. Ringling, AS YOU KNOW, is afraid of the truth of their animal husbandry practices being revealed, which is why they blatantly lie about them to the public, the media and the politicians. I've heard that the circus employees do a lot of drugs. This may be what clouds your perceptions.
@circusboy90210 - so answer the question: what "cruel" things have workers done to be "fired on the spot." I'm am really curious what Ringling considers cruel enough to fire a person on the spot.
@patcuvie what ou might see as a severe beating is nothing to a animal 3 to 20 times your size. I know who you are that's why I know you don't shave your legs. the name vargas is an old circus family. you really don't know how the circus or the real world work. however yes most are fired on the spot unless they are well connected. seen more people cycle through the snimal trainer division than you can count.
@circusboy90210 -Sure abuse is non-existent if you don't think of beatings, severe confinement and forced separation of family members abuse. If a person does then the abuse is rampant. Workers who beat the elephants are not fired they are rewarded, i.e., Troy Metzler, Alex Vargas, Joey Frisco, Joe Frisco, and every one of the elephant handlers and trainers. Tell me what cruel things have workers done that they have been "fired on the spot" for? I've never shaved my legs, so you never seen it.
@patcuvie excuse me???? did u just say that elephants r KILLERS?! IF U WERE THAT WOULD U JUST GO WITH BEING WHIPPED?! no right? u should have a healthy life instead of dying.@circusboy90210 that`s NOT what the planet needs.What is DOES need is appreciation 4 our animals,their 1 of the things that embrace nature.Imagine a life without them:no little buddies as pets,nothing else 2 love but humans.
afgsamay1 9 months ago
Thank you for making this vid. I will never support a circus.
xoxTaniwolfxox2 9 months ago
Wow, those conditions are just terrible. No wonder some of them go "mad"...
LonelySpycrab 11 months ago
@circusboy - You're still refusing to give details of what Ringling would consider behavior cruel enough to "fire a person on the spot." Hitting elephants across the face with bullhooks and whips does not "tickle" them. IT HURTS THEM, which is why Ringling does it: to instill fear in the elephants, so they can control them. You don't instill fear through tickling. The Elephants are "Killers" and yet Ringling tickles them to instill respect? You really don't know how ridiculous you sound, do you?
patcuvie 1 year ago
@patcuvie I"m not behind ringling I'm behind family's that have been doing the same thing for century's in a status quo that is what the planet needs'.. I've seen people literaly thrown off of the train for doing dumb shit to animals. not always aware why , I was on the concourse most of the time and got back to the train to see they were fired, shitcanned 86'ed. however you keep ignoring that what would hurt you only tickles these wild beast's and it's all they respect. they are killers.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 - I would love to have a job at Ringling. Unfortunately, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, they would never hire me, as they would know I would document and reveal what I saw. Ringling, AS YOU KNOW, is afraid of the truth of their animal husbandry practices being revealed, which is why they blatantly lie about them to the public, the media and the politicians. I've heard that the circus employees do a lot of drugs. This may be what clouds your perceptions.
patcuvie 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 - so answer the question: what "cruel" things have workers done to be "fired on the spot." I'm am really curious what Ringling considers cruel enough to fire a person on the spot.
patcuvie 1 year ago
@patcuvie why don't you get a job @ rinling since you need to learn so much about the reality of the situation.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@patcuvie what ou might see as a severe beating is nothing to a animal 3 to 20 times your size. I know who you are that's why I know you don't shave your legs. the name vargas is an old circus family. you really don't know how the circus or the real world work. however yes most are fired on the spot unless they are well connected. seen more people cycle through the snimal trainer division than you can count.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
@circusboy90210 -Sure abuse is non-existent if you don't think of beatings, severe confinement and forced separation of family members abuse. If a person does then the abuse is rampant. Workers who beat the elephants are not fired they are rewarded, i.e., Troy Metzler, Alex Vargas, Joey Frisco, Joe Frisco, and every one of the elephant handlers and trainers. Tell me what cruel things have workers done that they have been "fired on the spot" for? I've never shaved my legs, so you never seen it.
patcuvie 1 year ago