there is contemporary evidence that Jesus lived

see "The Historical Jesus" by Dr. Gary Habermas page 146 and 147

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[ChelevSaRa]

You're using the claim that Jesus existed as evidence that he existed.

I hereby claim that Luke Skywalker existed!

There. That's evidence Luke Skywalker existed.

That's the kind of logic you're using there.

[migkillertwo]

possibly the dumbest comment I've read so far today

[Christus94]

If Mark was written in the late 40s and therefore before 1st Corinthians, is it possible that he got it from Mark?

[migkillertwo]

Paul? no. There's no evidence that Paul knew any of the Gospels.

and Pau clearly states taht this tradition goes back to Jesus himself.

[hens0w]

paul could have made it up or the person befor him could have made it up

and anyway dosn't he see jesues in acts could be wrong

any way some one told me that someone told them that the wold would on the 10th of july inless a 1000 or more peple run though mager citys screeming I don't whant the world to end. do you believe that the world will end?

[ChelevSaRa]

That's it? That's all you have to say?

[Deliratio]

No?

[bellyofadolphin]

If Matt and Luke "copied" an error, doesn't this prove the assertion that the "holy spirit" did NOT guide these men in their writings?

[Deliratio]

I may be mistaken, but I think in "A marginal Jew", John P. Meier argues that John is most likely correct and the part in Mark is a later interpolation which Matthew and Luke untorfunately copied.

Doesn't have to be correct.

[NeroFreyr]

In realty, there is not a single Greco-Roman or Tacitean historian. All i've seen is some immature religion basher (johnarmstrong) and some old dude (forbibletruth) attempting scholarship in a very poor manner - People with no Scholar Credentials and no Scholar to back them up. They're useless.

From sociology science (in which i explained), historical documents, and the fact that he is sourced in the Koran. How can Jesus not have existed? How did this whole influence originate?

[NeroFreyr]

Arguments can be made to discredit the existence of literally anyone in history. There's a Russian mathematician who claims that everything that was claimed to happen before 1000 A.D.was invented by Jesuits who wanted to rewrite history, and there are many people (mainly Russians) who subscribe to his theory.

The documents of Lucian, Josephus, Tacitus, are highly credible. I know john, bibletruth, and some others try to point out forgery, but note none of them give any Scholar back up.

[NeroFreyr]

There's just no sense in Sociology to say Jesus is a myth. Having little evidence for someone's existence does not mean that that person was invented out of thin air. Central to Christian belief is the idea that there was a Jesus-figure of some sort, and according to sociological theory cults start around central figures/prophets/etc.Christian­ity was a cult and it was based around a figure who was claimed to have actually lived in history it is unlikely that "Jesus" was deliber8ly created.